It's not Sherwood!

[old man villa fan]

Well I'm sure he's feeling quite low now and his managerial career is a bit in ruins. So in that respect I feel sorry for him.

Fuck him. Anyone who very publicly throws his colleagues and team under the bus shouldn't get any sympathy at all.

Well if he is telling the truth and the players he signed weren't his choices I've got sympathy for him. Mind you if he was that offended by it he should have made a point resigned over it.

I was listening to the radio last night and they were discussing this point.  I am not sure who the pundits were but most were saying that the manager should have the say on players as he is the one that has to work with them.  Then one said that thinking was a load of rubbish and any decent manager should be able to work with any players and it is just down to attitude.  After he said that, nobody disagreed.  I think the 'not the manager's players' is an easy comment to make.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Except Sherwood said many times that he had the final say in all transfers. So this "not my players" stuff does not fit with that. He could complain about the amount of money for sure, but HOW the money was spent? Nah, thats on him.

[Clark W Griswold]

Well I'm sure he's feeling quite low now and his managerial career is a bit in ruins. So in that respect I feel sorry for him.

Fuck him. Anyone who very publicly throws his colleagues and team under the bus shouldn't get any sympathy at all.

Well if he is telling the truth and the players he signed weren't his choices I've got sympathy for him. Mind you if he was that offended by it he should have made a point resigned over it.

Conspiracy Theory Alert:
Maybe they were Remi Gardes signings!!

[olaftab]

I presume he will now be busy telling the world how the Villa job was beneath him and he did a mate (Fox) a favour  to come here and save us from relegation and there is not much more he could have done with our "small minded" set up.

[brian green]

Sorry sill I don't agree. The club is fine, the club is strong, the club is solvent. If you think having an absent American billionaire owner somehow degrades us, I remember when our owner had a fish stall in the Bull Ring. It is part of the history and the folk lore of football to have barmy owners and fans like you sill and my late saintly mother to get all steamed up about it.

The problem is management and coaching. That has to be addressed and appears to be being addressed as a matter of urgency.

[pauliewalnuts]

I thought he was a bit of a twat before he came here and now he is gone I have even less respect for him. Some of the shit he has come out with of late has been pathetic and incredibly arse-covering.

He's far from the only poor manager we've had of late but tactically he is the worst. Clueless, and totally out of his depth.

[Loxton01]

When Lambert was sacked I was delighted with Tim I am sad about the whole sorry mess.

I thank him for coming in last year and giving us that momentum to get out of trouble and take us to the Cup Final.

For me if we were sat on 10 or 11 points for me he would be doing a good job for the club with the squad he has been given/assembled the fact we are sat on 4 is his responsibility. Errors have been made but im sorry this is not all TS fault and we need to get real that a new manager will make things all a lot better

That said this squad is better than 10 games 4 points and Sherwood had to take responsibility for that. A motivator but lacked the attention to detail - losing to Leicester killed the confidence and we have never recovered

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

I wish him well but I have no sympathy for him at all. He brought the entire thing upon himself and we are in a position of having 28 games to repair the damage he has done.

I think that is quite short sighted, he is part of the problem . But, the problems are much bigger at villa.

I don't think it's short-sighted at all. We all know there are some issues behind the scenes, but Sherwood had plenty of backing, had money to spend, brought in his own people, and he's still left us in a right old hole. Not only that but he's mouthed off left, right and centre to cover his own ineptitude. Nothing was his fault, and I await the further avalanche of sob stories which will no doubt spew from his runaway cakehole to try and salvage his reputation. You watch, if we survive this season he'll be claiming credit for having brought these players together. He's exactly that kind of disingenuous, self-serving guy. Any half decent manager would have made a much better fist of such a fantastic opportunity. Like Brian, I have no sympathy for him whatsoever.

[silhillvilla]

Sorry sill I don't agree. The club is fine, the club is strong, the club is solvent. If you think having an absent American billionaire owner somehow degrades us, I remember when our owner had a fish stall in the Bull Ring. It is part of the history and the folk lore of football to have barmy owners and fans like you sill and my late saintly mother to get all steamed up about it.

The problem is management and coaching. That has to be addressed and appears to be being addressed as a matter of urgency.

But surely the problem is bigger than the manager . The club is run so poorly and the appointments made such as Sherwood should never have happened in the 1st place

[dave shelley]

Sorry sill I don't agree. The club is fine, the club is strong, the club is solvent. If you think having an absent American billionaire owner somehow degrades us, I remember when our owner had a fish stall in the Bull Ring. It is part of the history and the folk lore of football to have barmy owners and fans like you sill and my late saintly mother to get all steamed up about it.

The problem is management and coaching. That has to be addressed and appears to be being addressed as a matter of urgency.

But surely the problem is bigger than the manager . The club is run so poorly and the appointments made such as Sherwood should never have happened in the 1st place

The choices of manager in the recent past can be arguably described as foolhardy but, to say that the club is run poorly is definitely foolhardy.

[myf]

Just found out the news, Goodbye Tim.

Sherwood’s League record as manager:
P23 W6 D2 L15 F28 A40 Pts20 = 0.87pts per game

How Sherwood compares:

so we need DOL in charge to get us to 40 points!

[pauliewalnuts]

I wish him well but I have no sympathy for him at all. He brought the entire thing upon himself and we are in a position of having 28 games to repair the damage he has done.

I think that is quite short sighted, he is part of the problem . But, the problems are much bigger at villa.

I don't think it's short-sighted at all. We all know there are some issues behind the scenes, but Sherwood had plenty of backing, had money to spend, brought in his own people, and he's still left us in a right old hole. Not only that but he's mouthed off left, right and centre to cover his own ineptitude. Nothing was his fault, and I await the further avalanche of sob stories which will no doubt spew from his runaway cakehole to try and salvage his reputation. You watch, if we survive this season he'll be claiming credit for having brought these players together. He's exactly that kind of disingenuous, self-serving guy. Any half decent manager would have made a much better fist of such a fantastic opportunity. Like Brian, I have no sympathy for him whatsoever.

I agree. The argument for Sherwood only really stands up if you can look at the players he has got and can say that he did approaching the best of what you'd say is possible with the squad.

I appreciate other managers have had more money to spend, but this bloke has lost 8 out of 10 league games this season so far. Was he getting the best out of what he had? No.

Of course Lerner is a problem, he wants out, he has told us, he is trying to sell. His reign has been a disaster for the last five years, but the most immediate problem was not the chairman, it was the manager.

The chairman can not change until someone buys the club off him. Nobody has bought a PL club for a fair while now. It's not like there is some sort of reason we are remaining unsold that distinguishes us from the rest of the league.

Us not challenging for the top six any more is mostly Lerner's fault.

Us being bottom of the league with 4 points from a possible 30 having lost 8/10 games and won just 1, in August, is not Lerner's fault. That is Sherwood's fault.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

But that's a separate issue, Silhill. Regardless of the backroom set up, the fact is that our current first team has significant Premier League, Europa League and international experience. It's not a top six squad, but it sure as hell isn't a bottom three one.  We're bottom of the league because Sherwood is a rubbish manager, simple as that. Whether he should have been appointed or not is another matter.

[garyshawsknee]

He was a drum beater who could get players going for 6-8 games, plus the fact no other guy would take the job at the time,so our options were limited then. Long term he has been found out, just happy the board has acted quickly.

[cdbearsfan]

Just found out the news, Goodbye Tim.

Sherwood’s League record as manager:
P23 W6 D2 L15 F28 A40 Pts20 = 0.87pts per game

How Sherwood compares:

so we need DOL in charge to get us to 40 points!

O'Leary finished 6th, 10th and 16th. I'd settle for the same, in reverse, between now and 2018!