It's not Sherwood!

[Villa in Denmark]

Appointing a young manager who understands the club can work see Swansea with Monk. However, Swansea have set themselves up with a very clear plan that they've been using for years now. If we had that, someone like Laursen hypothetically wouldn't be a bad shout. The fact that we don't have these things means it can't be considered until we do.

Monk had the advantage of having been around the club for god knows how long, had seen the philosophy built up from the foundations and being apparently a bit brighter than your stereotypical footballer has absorbed all of that along the way, so has developed a feel for what works and doesn't within that set up. Not wishing to decry what he's done but in the context of us "all" he's done is not crash a ship that was sailing nicely in relatively calm waters. The test for Monk will be what happens when they hit choppier waters, or the wind goes out of their sails.
To continue that analogy, we're the inexperienced crew of a supertanker that's listing in heavy seas. If we can't find a captain that knows what he's doing soon, it's abandon ship and salvage what little we can as the whole thing goes under.

[FrankyH]

Rodgers reminds me of the type of journeyman boxer who gets a shot at a vacant title and in the fight of his life wins. He gets beaten in his first defence by the only top-class opponent he's ever faced but from then on he gets all sorts of fights for minor titles and then against up and comers because he's a former champion.

Lloyd Honeyghan?

Dennis Andries

[N'ZMAV]

Monk didn't take over Swansea when they was in the bottom 3 whilst 4 points adrift, did he?

[Villa in Denmark]

Monk didn't take over Swansea when they was in the bottom 3 whilst 4 points adrift, did he?

Nope

On 4 February 2014, Laudrup was sacked by Swansea following a poor run of form which left the club two points clear of relegation. At the time of the decision, the team had lost six out of their last eight league games.

[Hookeysmith]

If I recall correctly a lot of Everton fans I spoke to at the time said moves brand of football was monotone like him and they were not unhappy he left.
Don't think I could handle another dour defensive Scotland

[Ron Manager]

Rodgers reminds me of the type of journeyman boxer who gets a shot at a vacant title and in the fight of his life wins. He gets beaten in his first defence by the only top-class opponent he's ever faced but from then on he gets all sorts of fights for minor titles and then against up and comers because he's a former champion.

Lloyd Honeyghan?

Dennis Andries

That's who I was thinking of!

[SamTheMouse]

If I recall correctly a lot of Everton fans I spoke to at the time said moves brand of football was monotone like him and they were not unhappy he left.
Don't think I could handle another dour defensive Scotland

It's all about context though, isn't it? He left them in a very solid position, possibly having reached his ceiling with them, in much the same way that O'Neill had with us.

Irrespective of the quality of football he oversaw, I always remember his Everton sides being a pain in the arse to play against.

[Nastylee]

Which is what some of us were saying about MON in his last 18months. I'm sure a few of us would love that boring, dull football that got us three top 6 places and a couple of Wembley visits.

[OCD]

Appointing a young manager who understands the club can work see Swansea with Monk. However, Swansea have set themselves up with a very clear plan that they've been using for years now. If we had that, someone like Laursen hypothetically wouldn't be a bad shout. The fact that we don't have these things means it can't be considered until we do.

Monk had the advantage of having been around the club for god knows how long, had seen the philosophy built up from the foundations and being apparently a bit brighter than your stereotypical footballer has absorbed all of that along the way, so has developed a feel for what works and doesn't within that set up. Not wishing to decry what he's done but in the context of us "all" he's done is not crash a ship that was sailing nicely in relatively calm waters. The test for Monk will be what happens when they hit choppier waters, or the wind goes out of their sails.
To continue that analogy, we're the inexperienced crew of a supertanker that's listing in heavy seas. If we can't find a captain that knows what he's doing soon, it's abandon ship and salvage what little we can as the whole thing goes under.

I may be misreading this but it seems that you think I've suggested Monk as a candidate. Really, my point was that we don't have the luxury or structure and we're not in a position to risk another inexperienced manager.

[Sexual Ealing]

I think Rodgers is the best fit but, if not, we could surely get Pardew?

[Toronto Villa]

Which is what some of us were saying about MON in his last 18months. I'm sure a few of us would love that boring, dull football that got use three top 6 places and a couple of Wembley visits.

It all feels a bit rich now that back then we were complaining about the manner of our victories, and how we hadn't taken advantage our of our situation fully and broken into the top four.

[Phil from the upper holte]

I think Rodgers is the best fit but, if not, we could surely get Pardew?

He won't leave palace for us, plus he is a massive ******

[Villa in Denmark]

Appointing a young manager who understands the club can work see Swansea with Monk. However, Swansea have set themselves up with a very clear plan that they've been using for years now. If we had that, someone like Laursen hypothetically wouldn't be a bad shout. The fact that we don't have these things means it can't be considered until we do.

Monk had the advantage of having been around the club for god knows how long, had seen the philosophy built up from the foundations and being apparently a bit brighter than your stereotypical footballer has absorbed all of that along the way, so has developed a feel for what works and doesn't within that set up. Not wishing to decry what he's done but in the context of us "all" he's done is not crash a ship that was sailing nicely in relatively calm waters. The test for Monk will be what happens when they hit choppier waters, or the wind goes out of their sails.
To continue that analogy, we're the inexperienced crew of a supertanker that's listing in heavy seas. If we can't find a captain that knows what he's doing soon, it's abandon ship and salvage what little we can as the whole thing goes under.

I may be misreading this but it seems that you think I've suggested Monk as a candidate. Really, my point was that we don't have the luxury or structure and we're not in a position to risk another inexperienced manager.

I think I'm agreeing with you.  Monk was fine for Swansea because of his background with them and where they were as a (well run) football club.

Our circumstances are radically different.  We need someone who can come in a take a load of potential and form it into a team that can start winning matches. For this season if we could edge up towards half way, which a lot if not most people on here thought was realistic before the season started, it would almost feel like winning the bloody league.

[garyshawsknee]

Yeah, Swansea had a template of how the club was run and how the team played, Monk was a part of that before he was manager. We are the complete opposite, no character, no direction, no identity for a few years now.

[Malandro]

I think Rodgers is the best fit but, if not, we could surely get Pardew?

He won't leave palace for us, plus he is a massive c***

I endorse that