Quote from: richard moore on February 14, 2015, 04:15:28 PMQuote from: SoccerHQ on February 14, 2015, 04:07:38 PMI for one will give him a chance.Welcome Tim.Is the correct reaction. It would be nice to afford him some courtesy and to give him a chance. Treat him as you would like to be treatedI'm not looking for new friend I'm looking for a top quality manager and there's nothing to suggest he is one.
Quote from: SoccerHQ on February 14, 2015, 04:07:38 PMI for one will give him a chance.Welcome Tim.Is the correct reaction. It would be nice to afford him some courtesy and to give him a chance. Treat him as you would like to be treated
I for one will give him a chance.Welcome Tim.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on February 14, 2015, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Monty on February 14, 2015, 04:12:11 PMQuote from: Californian Villain on February 14, 2015, 04:10:45 PMAll this negativity from the same people who championed the appointment of Lambert. Frankly I'd be more worried if we appointed a manger most on here were happy with. Give the geezer a chance!!I was against the appointment of Lambert - does that mean I get to moan about Sherwood?Really? Or was it more that you were more cautious or sceptical than others? I don't recall you ever being outwardly against him. No, I was dead against his appointment. He then said all the right things when he first got here so I got a bit more warm about it. But ultimately, my initial feeling that he was essentially another British plodder was, sadly, proven right.Richard - I just asked a question, it wasn't meant bitchily or anything. I just genuinely don't know what that phrase means in practical terms.
Quote from: Monty on February 14, 2015, 04:12:11 PMQuote from: Californian Villain on February 14, 2015, 04:10:45 PMAll this negativity from the same people who championed the appointment of Lambert. Frankly I'd be more worried if we appointed a manger most on here were happy with. Give the geezer a chance!!I was against the appointment of Lambert - does that mean I get to moan about Sherwood?Really? Or was it more that you were more cautious or sceptical than others? I don't recall you ever being outwardly against him.
Quote from: Californian Villain on February 14, 2015, 04:10:45 PMAll this negativity from the same people who championed the appointment of Lambert. Frankly I'd be more worried if we appointed a manger most on here were happy with. Give the geezer a chance!!I was against the appointment of Lambert - does that mean I get to moan about Sherwood?
All this negativity from the same people who championed the appointment of Lambert. Frankly I'd be more worried if we appointed a manger most on here were happy with. Give the geezer a chance!!
Quote from: paul_e on February 14, 2015, 03:21:12 PMAs I said on the replacement thread it looks like he's the only person we've spoken to at any length which makes me very nervous. I'll give him a chance but I think we've made ourselves look a bit stupid by just jumping in with the first guy who looked our way after Lambert went. They seem to have panicked a bit aout not getting someone in straight away.If you are drowning or your house is on fire you want a quick response you cannot choose your savior ( I hope he does save us)
As I said on the replacement thread it looks like he's the only person we've spoken to at any length which makes me very nervous. I'll give him a chance but I think we've made ourselves look a bit stupid by just jumping in with the first guy who looked our way after Lambert went. They seem to have panicked a bit aout not getting someone in straight away.
Jimbo - I acknowledge that we're not as big as we were, and I only really dreamed of the Klinnsman/Prandelli level. But there's got to be something between that level and the level of Sherwood, and our brilliant recruitment team didn't even look - they only interviewed one man.
Quote from: avfcpg on February 14, 2015, 04:25:32 PMQuote from: olaftab on February 14, 2015, 04:13:30 PMQuote from: avfcpg on February 14, 2015, 03:32:04 PMVery much an unknown quantity. He only managed for 28 games at Spurs, but won at least 50% of them. But he's young, hungry and ambitious. He played attacking football at Spurs, is well known to work well with and develop youth players (might see Grealish back now).He can be a bit of a gobshite and no real experience over a long term...I think he'll do ok. Not my first choice but not really disappointed either..and pleased that the club acted so quickly...Welcome Tim....Young? He is younger than Jesus, greedy and deluded other than that he is fine.Ok younger than Rafa, Wenger etc etc..Deluded yes probably..he'd fit in very well on here :-)Touché M avfcpg😂
Quote from: olaftab on February 14, 2015, 04:13:30 PMQuote from: avfcpg on February 14, 2015, 03:32:04 PMVery much an unknown quantity. He only managed for 28 games at Spurs, but won at least 50% of them. But he's young, hungry and ambitious. He played attacking football at Spurs, is well known to work well with and develop youth players (might see Grealish back now).He can be a bit of a gobshite and no real experience over a long term...I think he'll do ok. Not my first choice but not really disappointed either..and pleased that the club acted so quickly...Welcome Tim....Young? He is younger than Jesus, greedy and deluded other than that he is fine.Ok younger than Rafa, Wenger etc etc..Deluded yes probably..he'd fit in very well on here :-)
Quote from: avfcpg on February 14, 2015, 03:32:04 PMVery much an unknown quantity. He only managed for 28 games at Spurs, but won at least 50% of them. But he's young, hungry and ambitious. He played attacking football at Spurs, is well known to work well with and develop youth players (might see Grealish back now).He can be a bit of a gobshite and no real experience over a long term...I think he'll do ok. Not my first choice but not really disappointed either..and pleased that the club acted so quickly...Welcome Tim....Young? He is younger than Jesus, greedy and deluded other than that he is fine.
Very much an unknown quantity. He only managed for 28 games at Spurs, but won at least 50% of them. But he's young, hungry and ambitious. He played attacking football at Spurs, is well known to work well with and develop youth players (might see Grealish back now).He can be a bit of a gobshite and no real experience over a long term...I think he'll do ok. Not my first choice but not really disappointed either..and pleased that the club acted so quickly...Welcome Tim....
Sherwood's managerial record:LC West Ham (h) L1-2PL Southampton (a) W3-2PL West Brom (h) D1-1PL Stoke (h) W3-0PL Man United (a) W2-1FA Arsenal (a) L0-2PL Crystal Palace (h) W2-0PL Swansea (a) W3-1PL Man City (h) L1-5PL Hull City (a) D1-1PL Everton (h) W1-0PL Newcastle (a) W4-0EU Dnipro (a) L0-1PL Norwich (a) L0-1EU Dnipro (h) W3-0PL Cardiff (h) W1-0PL Chelsea (a) L0-4EU Benfica (h) L1-3PL Arsenal (a) L0-1EU Benfica (h) D2-2PL Southampton (h) W3-2PL Liverpool (a) L0-4PL Sunderland (h) W5-1PL West Brom (a) D3-3PL Fulham (h) W3-1PL Stoke (a) W1-0PL West Ham (a) L0-2PL Aston Villa (h) W3-0Good news: Not many draws, and lots of goals. Good record v Stoke, and beaten Man U at Old Trafford.Bad news: Some heavy beatings in there from Chelsea, Liverpool and Man City. Inconsistent results - doesn't seem to have established a decent run anywhere in there.;
All the best Tim, lets hope you do well, need a good No 2
This is a reactive, bargain-basement appointment, which is kind of what we do. But it was quick and painless and there really aren't many alternatives at this stage of the season. We should have sacked Lambert ages ago, but we didn't, and now we need a super-quick response to dropping in the bottom three. Hopefully Sherwood can shake things up sufficiently in those 13 games to get us out of the shit we've allowed ourselves to slide into. Something tells me he won't suffer a lack of effort, or Benteke-style petulance, or Gabby-style gormlessness gladly. Some of us have to face up to the fact that we're not a big club any more. We've scaled back everything, including our ambition, over the last five years, and now we're the type of club that gambles on unproven talent simply to exist in the Premier League. Frankly, all that talk of Klinsmann or Benitez was reminiscent of the time we thought we could get Ancelotti, and ended up with McLeish. Except this appointment is much more promising.
I don't quite get this 'give him a chance' meme that always goes around. I don't have a choice but to give him a chance - it's not up to me. I dislike the appointment, and if I'm proved wrong I will stop disliking it, if I'm proved right I'll continue disliking it.
It's okay to dislike the appointment.But some of the hyperbole is bordering hysteria more associated with geeks when the "wrong actor" is chosen to play the 26th incarnation of Spiderman. Or currently "the new Ilya Kuryakin isn't blonde enough".I suppose football fans are geeks too!