So what can the fans do?

[Damo70]

-Protest
-Petition
-Email media outlets, BBC, Talksport, Sky, etc and let them know the full of it - if the club don't want to know perhaps we could shame them into action
-Consider boycotting a game - this will divide fans though
-Or, go to a game en masse but leave Villa in no doubt about how fans feel about the state of the club (singing, flags, etc)

And write to the lead singer of Echo And The Bunnymen.

[andyh]

there are still many who think he's doing a great job and still back him.
they clap and cheer any old shit.
I had people jumping up and down with glee by me when we won a fucking throw in on Saturday.

unless and until there really is a mass shitstorm (like against Bolton), the fans wont be taken seriously.
We have been nowhere near raising the roof like we did in that game, no where near.

[Nelly]

McLeish, McNeill, Docherty, Lambert, Cummings is, I think, the order for worst win percentages in all comps. His defeats percentage must be right up there though.

Cheers for this. I thought Lambert had done worse than McLeish. But either way, how awful to have had two of the worst Villa manages in our history successively.

My son asked me where this side rates in terms of previous outrages
I said it is without doubt the worst football i   have ever seen from a Villa team, but ironically , not the worst players.Go  figure. (In 40 years)

This is the nutty thing! Our squad shouldn't be anywhere near the relegation zone. "Outrages" - lol very apt.

Much as he tried, even O'Leary didn't match this kind of divide. Crowds are roughly the same, the level of "meh" seems roughly the same.

Dolly's 6th place finish was it? Seems like halcyon days now. The smug git. Maybe it's just the optimist in me but I really think with a bit of sane leadership it wouldn't take very much for Villa to be at least mid-table.

[dave.woodhall]

McLeish, McNeill, Docherty, Lambert, Cummings is, I think, the order for worst win percentages in all comps. His defeats percentage must be right up there though.

Cheers for this. I thought Lambert had done worse than McLeish. But either way, how awful to have had two of the worst Villa manages in our history successively.

My son asked me where this side rates in terms of previous outrages
I said it is without doubt the worst football i   have ever seen from a Villa team, but ironically , not the worst players.Go  figure. (In 40 years)

This is the nutty thing! Our squad shouldn't be anywhere near the relegation zone. "Outrages" - lol very apt.

Much as he tried, even O'Leary didn't match this kind of divide. Crowds are roughly the same, the level of "meh" seems roughly the same.

Dolly's 6th place finish was it? Seems like halcyon days now. The smug git. Maybe it's just the optimist in me but I really think with a bit of sane leadership it wouldn't take very much for Villa to be at least mid-table.

Absolutely. This is the best squad since 2010, and the worst performances.

[Rudy65]

I actually think Dollys fickle comment has resulted in Villa fans trying so hard to prove we're not fickle that we put up with shit loads more than any other fans would.

But this has got to be it now. Stuart Pearce got fired at Forest, a club he's revered as a legend at, for virtually the same record as Lamberts. Like others have said, pointless protesting against the owner - we've got to concentrate on getting the worst manager we've had for 30 years out of the club.

Pearce had a much better record and had been there 7 months.

[Monty]

Absolutely. This is the best squad since 2010, and the worst performances.

Indeed, and a lot of that is down to Lambert's signing good players. Even if it is just his scouts doing good work he still has to make the decision. The trouble is, there are many good scouts in the world who would do very very badly if they were made managers.

[Rudy65]

Absolutely. This is the best squad since 2010, and the worst performances.

Indeed, and a lot of that is down to Lambert's signing good players. Even if it is just his scouts doing good work he still has to make the decision. The trouble is, there are many good scouts in the world who would do very very badly if they were made managers.

I think you give him too much credit. If the signing were that good, we wouldnt be bottom three

[Ad@m]

I actually think Dollys fickle comment has resulted in Villa fans trying so hard to prove we're not fickle that we put up with shit loads more than any other fans would.

But this has got to be it now. Stuart Pearce got fired at Forest, a club he's revered as a legend at, for virtually the same record as Lamberts. Like others have said, pointless protesting against the owner - we've got to concentrate on getting the worst manager we've had for 30 years out of the club.

Pearce had a much better record and had been there 7 months.

Pearce did 3 wins in 23 before he got the boot. Lambert has 3 in 22...

[PeterWithesShin]

We had far from the worst squad in the division in 86/87 but still finished bottom.

[Nelly]

I have to say I think his signings have been good. Benteke, Gil, Sanchez, Vlaar, Okore, etc. It's his only redeeming attribute right now I think. Can he somehow black magic them into scoring goals though, that's where he's falling down.

(States the painfully obvious.)

[Rudy65]

We had far from the worst squad in the division in 86/87 but still finished bottom.

Not sure about that. From memory we finished bottom because we did have far and away the worst squad. The whole malaise of the club then and now is very similar though

[PeterWithesShin]

We had far from the worst squad in the division in 86/87 but still finished bottom.

Not sure about that. From memory we finished bottom because we did have far and away the worst squad. The whole malaise of the club then and now is very similar though

Spink, Dorigo, Williams, Keown, Evans, Hodge (for part of the season), Daley, Birch, Walters, Thompson, all off the top of my head, was nowhere near the the worst squad.

[adrenachrome]

We had far from the worst squad in the division in 86/87 but still finished bottom.

Same with the other two relegations in my time as a fan. It is not the case that the worst sides go down and that the league table does not lie.

Playing each team twice is more accurate than many of the alternatives, the setup of the NFL, for example.  But the form of the opposition on match day can be a massive factor. Consider our team for many years pre Lambo. We would start and end brilliantly, and have an awful slump mid season.  Depending on when other clubs played us, they might as well be up against a different side.  Then there are bizarre refereeing decisions which never even themselves out.

[mr woo]

I actually think Dollys fickle comment has resulted in Villa fans trying so hard to prove we're not fickle that we put up with shit loads more than any other fans would.

But this has got to be it now. Stuart Pearce got fired at Forest, a club he's revered as a legend at, for virtually the same record as Lamberts. Like others have said, pointless protesting against the owner - we've got to concentrate on getting the worst manager we've had for 30 years out of the club.

Pearce had a much better record and had been there 7 months.

Pearce did 3 wins in 23 before he got the boot. Lambert has 3 in 22...

And by all accounts our former chief exec thought that (Pearces)  record was acceptable to the point he resigned in sympathy. Says it all really.

[Damo70]

there are still many who think he's doing a great job and still back him.
they clap and cheer any old shit.
I had people jumping up and down with glee by me when we won a fucking throw in on Saturday.

unless and until there really is a mass shitstorm (like against Bolton), the fans wont be taken seriously.
We have been nowhere near raising the roof like we did in that game, no where near.

The only time I would get excited about a throw in is if and when we actually threw it successfully to one of our own players.