Sir Doug Ellis donates £1 million

[Mister E]

Ellis was a self serving twat. Lerner is shit at running football clubs.

One man made his money running us, the other has sank money into us.

No matter how shite things are currently, I'm not going to don the rose tinted glasses.

Exactly, revisionism of the highest order. I've forgiven him for the pigs ear he made of the club but I'll never forget.

Spot on.

[Mister E]

The more we have Lerner the more ai appreciate Doug. Much respect.

Too right. At least Ellis managed to get us relegated properly.

Say what you like about him but he has always had Villa's interests at heart. A true football man. Can we say the same about Lerner?

Well said.

His main interests were in HDE. He made loads of dosh out of the club without investing what was really required. The redevelopment of the Trinity was a testament to his modus operandi (I'll say no more to avoid legal transgressions).
He may have had (and seems still to have) a fondness for us but his primary interest was his bank balance.
In that context, he's done well to redistribute some of his lucre to good causes.

[go on the dog]

He can't have been all bad, I mean we all got a vote to have a stand named after him didn't we?

PS Dave I still think you should write the book, Villa the Ellis years

[mr underhill]

Randy's been pretty altruistic towards worthy causes too, to be honest. Look at the Acorns thing. It's his support of lost causes that spoil things.

[saunders_heroes]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

I don't disagree with the last line, just don't see why it has to come with the beatification of Ellis.

Beautification? That's a tad over the top.
I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week. I don't understand why that offends you so much. Unless you've enjoyed these last 5 humiliating, embarrassing years.

I haven't enjoyed them, but it still beats standing with 12,000 others watching us limp to a draw at home to Barnsley, and wondering as a 10 year old how it relates to stories of achievement I'd been bought up on.

A bit of a stretch to say you were brought up on us winning the European Cup etc. those glory days lasted, what, 2, 3 years maximum?

Please don't tell me what I was bought up on, as I don't believe you were present at the time.

I don't give a damn what you believe. I've been a regular since '77 and a season ticket holder for most of those seasons since as well.

[silhillvilla]

I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week .
The last 2-3 years have been an absolute disgrace.
At least Ellis showed up week in week out endured the good the bad and the ugly along with the fans home & away.

[LeeB]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

I don't disagree with the last line, just don't see why it has to come with the beatification of Ellis.

Beautification? That's a tad over the top.
I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week. I don't understand why that offends you so much. Unless you've enjoyed these last 5 humiliating, embarrassing years.

I haven't enjoyed them, but it still beats standing with 12,000 others watching us limp to a draw at home to Barnsley, and wondering as a 10 year old how it relates to stories of achievement I'd been bought up on.

A bit of a stretch to say you were brought up on us winning the European Cup etc. those glory days lasted, what, 2, 3 years maximum?

Please don't tell me what I was bought up on, as I don't believe you were present at the time.

I don't give a damn what you believe. I've been a regular since '77 and a season ticket holder for most of those seasons since as well.

You're so determined to take offense. I meant you took no part in my upbringing, you daft sod.

[dave.woodhall]

I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week .
The last 2-3 years have been an absolute disgrace.
At least Ellis showed up week in week out endured the good the bad and the ugly along with the fans home & away.

It was his (very well-paid) job.

[passport1]

Nice to see him redistributing our money

[saunders_heroes]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

I don't disagree with the last line, just don't see why it has to come with the beatification of Ellis.

Beautification? That's a tad over the top.
I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week. I don't understand why that offends you so much. Unless you've enjoyed these last 5 humiliating, embarrassing years.

I haven't enjoyed them, but it still beats standing with 12,000 others watching us limp to a draw at home to Barnsley, and wondering as a 10 year old how it relates to stories of achievement I'd been bought up on.

A bit of a stretch to say you were brought up on us winning the European Cup etc. those glory days lasted, what, 2, 3 years maximum?

Please don't tell me what I was bought up on, as I don't believe you were present at the time.

I don't give a damn what you believe. I've been a regular since '77 and a season ticket holder for most of those seasons since as well.

You're so determined to take offense. I meant you took no part in my upbringing, you daft sod.

Yes, sorry, I read it and replied quickly on an iPhone.

[Clampy]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

I don't disagree with the last line, just don't see why it has to come with the beatification of Ellis.

Beautification? That's a tad over the top.
I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week. I don't understand why that offends you so much. Unless you've enjoyed these last 5 humiliating, embarrassing years.

I haven't enjoyed them, but it still beats standing with 12,000 others watching us limp to a draw at home to Barnsley, and wondering as a 10 year old how it relates to stories of achievement I'd been bought up on.

A bit of a stretch to say you were brought up on us winning the European Cup etc. those glory days lasted, what, 2, 3 years maximum?

Please don't tell me what I was bought up on, as I don't believe you were present at the time.

I don't give a damn what you believe. I've been a regular since '77 and a season ticket holder for most of those seasons since as well.

You're so determined to take offense. I meant you took no part in my upbringing, you daft sod.

Yes, sorry, I read it and replied quickly on an iPhone.

As cop out's out go.....

[saunders_heroes]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

I don't disagree with the last line, just don't see why it has to come with the beatification of Ellis.

Beautification? That's a tad over the top.
I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week. I don't understand why that offends you so much. Unless you've enjoyed these last 5 humiliating, embarrassing years.

I haven't enjoyed them, but it still beats standing with 12,000 others watching us limp to a draw at home to Barnsley, and wondering as a 10 year old how it relates to stories of achievement I'd been bought up on.

A bit of a stretch to say you were brought up on us winning the European Cup etc. those glory days lasted, what, 2, 3 years maximum?

Please don't tell me what I was bought up on, as I don't believe you were present at the time.

I don't give a damn what you believe. I've been a regular since '77 and a season ticket holder for most of those seasons since as well.

You're so determined to take offense. I meant you took no part in my upbringing, you daft sod.

Yes, sorry, I read it and replied quickly on an iPhone.

As cop out's out go.....

Don't start with that dummy again.

[Clampy]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

I don't disagree with the last line, just don't see why it has to come with the beatification of Ellis.

Beautification? That's a tad over the top.
I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week. I don't understand why that offends you so much. Unless you've enjoyed these last 5 humiliating, embarrassing years.

I haven't enjoyed them, but it still beats standing with 12,000 others watching us limp to a draw at home to Barnsley, and wondering as a 10 year old how it relates to stories of achievement I'd been bought up on.

A bit of a stretch to say you were brought up on us winning the European Cup etc. those glory days lasted, what, 2, 3 years maximum?

Please don't tell me what I was bought up on, as I don't believe you were present at the time.

I don't give a damn what you believe. I've been a regular since '77 and a season ticket holder for most of those seasons since as well.

You're so determined to take offense. I meant you took no part in my upbringing, you daft sod.

Yes, sorry, I read it and replied quickly on an iPhone.

As cop out's out go.....

Don't start with that dummy again.

Hmm.....judging by your last post, you have spat your's out a fair bit. Would you like me to pick it up for you?

[saunders_heroes]

Spitting is a dirty, nasty habit. As is your obsession with quotathons
Count me out!

[Clampy]

Someone joined in the last quotathon a good 6 times.

Anyway, as we were.

Good old Doug, a very nice donation.