Sir Doug Ellis donates £1 million

[LeeB]

I've no idea. I do know the price of my season ticket steadily rose under Lerner though. I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

I'm making a point of questioning the character of someone who would take the European Champions down within 5 years, and then have the nerve to increase admission prices.

[saunders_heroes]

Graham Taylor got us back up, and he appointed himself. Then we went closer to going down on more than once occasion than we ever have under Lerner. The greatest opportunity we ever had was destroyed because of one man's vanity - everything he has ever done has got to be judged against that. 

We were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis like we are now under Lerner. That's a damning statistic for a billionaire chairman.

[saunders_heroes]

I've no idea. I do know the price of my season ticket steadily rose under Lerner though. I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

I'm making a point of questioning the character of someone who would take the European Champions down within 5 years, and then have the nerve to increase admission prices.

That's inflation for you.
Our ticket prices were always reasonable under Ellis anyway, so again I don't understand your point.

[Clampy]

I've no idea. I do know the price of my season ticket steadily rose under Lerner though. I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

I'm making a point of questioning the character of someone who would take the European Champions down within 5 years, and then have the nerve to increase admission prices.

That's inflation for you.
Our ticket prices were always reasonable under Ellis anyway, so again I don't understand your point.

Yes, they were. I think they're reasonably priced still.

[saunders_heroes]

I've no idea. I do know the price of my season ticket steadily rose under Lerner though. I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

I'm making a point of questioning the character of someone who would take the European Champions down within 5 years, and then have the nerve to increase admission prices.

That's inflation for you.
Our ticket prices were always reasonable under Ellis anyway, so again I don't understand your point.

Yes, they were. I think they're reasonably priced still.

You're right they are. I don't know why it was brought up.

[LeeB]

Graham Taylor got us back up, and he appointed himself. Then we went closer to going down on more than once occasion than we ever have under Lerner. The greatest opportunity we ever had was destroyed because of one man's vanity - everything he has ever done has got to be judged against that. 

We were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis like we are now under Lerner. That's a damning statistic for a billionaire chairman.

85-86, 86-87 (R), 88-89, 90-91, 94-95, 05-06.

Probably only the influence of the mighty Graham Taylor, and the legacy of the windfall from two of his signings stopped there from being more.

[Clampy]

I've no idea. I do know the price of my season ticket steadily rose under Lerner though. I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

I'm making a point of questioning the character of someone who would take the European Champions down within 5 years, and then have the nerve to increase admission prices.

That's inflation for you.
Our ticket prices were always reasonable under Ellis anyway, so again I don't understand your point.

Yes, they were. I think they're reasonably priced still.

You're right they are. I don't know why it was brought up.

I presume it was brought up because you said that your season ticket has risen steadily under Lerner. I'm not sure that was relevant either.

[saunders_heroes]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

[saunders_heroes]

I've no idea. I do know the price of my season ticket steadily rose under Lerner though. I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

I'm making a point of questioning the character of someone who would take the European Champions down within 5 years, and then have the nerve to increase admission prices.

That's inflation for you.
Our ticket prices were always reasonable under Ellis anyway, so again I don't understand your point.

Yes, they were. I think they're reasonably priced still.

You're right they are. I don't know why it was brought up.

I presume it was brought up because you said that your season ticket has risen steadily under Lerner. I'm not sure that was relevant either.

It was in answer to LeeB's post about Ellis putting the ticket prices up like it never happened before or since. A perfectly reasonable thing to do.

[LeeB]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

I don't disagree with the last line, just don't see why it has to come with the beatification of Ellis.

[dave.woodhall]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

Five seasons an absolute disgrace you say? Like 1982-87?

Also, have a look back to how prices rose from about 1992 onwards under the benevolent old Doug.

[PeterWithesShin]

I remember 97/98 which was a shit season for the most part, apart from the UEFA cup run. Good old Doug put the prices up each round to show he appreciated us turning up.

[Tom_Mc9?]

Still, it's nice he donated £1m.

[saunders_heroes]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

I don't disagree with the last line, just don't see why it has to come with the beatification of Ellis.

Beautification? That's a tad over the top.
I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week. I don't understand why that offends you so much. Unless you've enjoyed these last 5 humiliating, embarrassing years.

[Clampy]

I've got a lot of time for Doug,  but like Dave said, going from being the best team in european football to being relegated within five years was some doing by anyone's standards.