Sir Doug Ellis donates £1 million

[Chico Hamilton III]

Back the Doug's donation ( the argument over who is the better chairman, him or Lerner is a bit like comparing Lambert with McLeish - both absolutely dreadful managers).

He got, what, £20m for his stake in Villa and he's  donated a couple of million to charity?

A nice touch but I'd have given more than that. I don't like to talk about it though

[PeterWithesShin]

I've got a lot of time for Doug,  but like Dave said, going from being the best team in european football to being relegated within five years was some doing by anyone's standards.

The way he treated the Barton family is still remembered by some and will never be forgiven.

[PeterWithesShin]

As for the donation, fair play for giving it, not that he ever likes it mentioned.

[LeeB]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

I don't disagree with the last line, just don't see why it has to come with the beatification of Ellis.

Beautification? That's a tad over the top.
I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week. I don't understand why that offends you so much. Unless you've enjoyed these last 5 humiliating, embarrassing years.

I haven't enjoyed them, but it still beats standing with 12,000 others watching us limp to a draw at home to Barnsley, and wondering as a 10 year old how it relates to stories of achievement I'd been bought up on.

[saunders_heroes]

I've got a lot of time for Doug,  but like Dave said, going from being the best team in european football to being relegated within five years was some doing by anyone's standards.

The way he treated the Barton family is still remembered by some and will never be forgiven.

But he knew how to run a football club, unlike Lerner.

[LeeB]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

I don't disagree with the last line, just don't see why it has to come with the beatification of Ellis.

Beautification? That's a tad over the top.
I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week. I don't understand why that offends you so much. Unless you've enjoyed these last 5 humiliating, embarrassing years.

It's 'beatification' by the way. I'm not suggesting he gets a makeover.

[PeterWithesShin]

I've got a lot of time for Doug,  but like Dave said, going from being the best team in european football to being relegated within five years was some doing by anyone's standards.

The way he treated the Barton family is still remembered by some and will never be forgiven.

But he knew how to run a football club, unlike Lerner.

Why were we so financially fucked when he left? Why were we relegated? Doesn't sound like someone who knew what he was doing to me.

[saunders_heroes]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

I don't disagree with the last line, just don't see why it has to come with the beatification of Ellis.

Beautification? That's a tad over the top.
I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week. I don't understand why that offends you so much. Unless you've enjoyed these last 5 humiliating, embarrassing years.

I haven't enjoyed them, but it still beats standing with 12,000 others watching us limp to a draw at home to Barnsley, and wondering as a 10 year old how it relates to stories of achievement I'd been bought up on.

A bit of a stretch to say you were brought up on us winning the European Cup etc. those glory days lasted, what, 2, 3 years maximum?

[dave.woodhall]

I've got a lot of time for Doug,  but like Dave said, going from being the best team in european football to being relegated within five years was some doing by anyone's standards.

The way he treated the Barton family is still remembered by some and will never be forgiven.

But he knew how to run a football club, unlike Lerner.

Shall we ask someone who knows better than us? Ron Saunders for example?

[saunders_heroes]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

I don't disagree with the last line, just don't see why it has to come with the beatification of Ellis.

Beautification? That's a tad over the top.
I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week. I don't understand why that offends you so much. Unless you've enjoyed these last 5 humiliating, embarrassing years.

It's 'beatification' by the way. I'm not suggesting he gets a makeover.

Oh lord a spelling error!

[PeterWithesShin]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

I don't disagree with the last line, just don't see why it has to come with the beatification of Ellis.

Beautification? That's a tad over the top.
I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week. I don't understand why that offends you so much. Unless you've enjoyed these last 5 humiliating, embarrassing years.

I haven't enjoyed them, but it still beats standing with 12,000 others watching us limp to a draw at home to Barnsley, and wondering as a 10 year old how it relates to stories of achievement I'd been bought up on.

A bit of a stretch to say you were brought up on us winning the European Cup etc. those glory days lasted, what, 2, 3 years maximum?

Trophy wins in 75, 77, 81, 82, 83.

[LeeB]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

I don't disagree with the last line, just don't see why it has to come with the beatification of Ellis.

Beautification? That's a tad over the top.
I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week. I don't understand why that offends you so much. Unless you've enjoyed these last 5 humiliating, embarrassing years.

I haven't enjoyed them, but it still beats standing with 12,000 others watching us limp to a draw at home to Barnsley, and wondering as a 10 year old how it relates to stories of achievement I'd been bought up on.

A bit of a stretch to say you were brought up on us winning the European Cup etc. those glory days lasted, what, 2, 3 years maximum?

Please don't tell me what I was bought up on, as I don't believe you were present at the time.

[PeterWithesShin]

As I was 13 in 83 I thought the Villa always won stuff. I soon learnt.

[Clampy]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

I don't disagree with the last line, just don't see why it has to come with the beatification of Ellis.

Beautification? That's a tad over the top.
I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week. I don't understand why that offends you so much. Unless you've enjoyed these last 5 humiliating, embarrassing years.

I haven't enjoyed them, but it still beats standing with 12,000 others watching us limp to a draw at home to Barnsley, and wondering as a 10 year old how it relates to stories of achievement I'd been bought up on.

A bit of a stretch to say you were brought up on us winning the European Cup etc. those glory days lasted, what, 2, 3 years maximum?

And so what? Those  glory days included an achievement that only 6 other British clubs can claimed to have enjoyed.

[LeeB]

As I said, we were never perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis.
These last 5 seasons have been an absolute disgrace.

I don't disagree with the last line, just don't see why it has to come with the beatification of Ellis.

Beautification? That's a tad over the top.
I'd take Ellis over Lerner any day of the week. I don't understand why that offends you so much. Unless you've enjoyed these last 5 humiliating, embarrassing years.

I haven't enjoyed them, but it still beats standing with 12,000 others watching us limp to a draw at home to Barnsley, and wondering as a 10 year old how it relates to stories of achievement I'd been bought up on.

A bit of a stretch to say you were brought up on us winning the European Cup etc. those glory days lasted, what, 2, 3 years maximum?

And so what? Those  glory days included an achievement that only 6 other British clubs can claimed to have enjoyed.

It's alright Clampy, my hopes as a fan are not nearly as important as saunders_heroes ire.