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Offline Liam_Baggies

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Re: Scott Sinclair - now confirmed
« Reply #315 on: January 31, 2015, 10:48:08 PM »
However bad he is for us, I bet he still proves better value than £16m on Brown Ideye and Victor Anichebe.

Davies, Reo-Coker, Habib Beye, Harewood, Shorey, Warnock etc  ;D

Both Anichebe & Ideye were apparently heavily incentive based. Anichebe was apparently £4million upfront with the remainder being add-ons.

Brown Ideye was also around £2.5m/£3.5m with his incentives being goals based - Richard Garlick confirmed this at supporters club meetings.

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Re: Scott Sinclair - now confirmed
« Reply #316 on: January 31, 2015, 10:50:50 PM »
However bad he is for us, I bet he still proves better value than £16m on Brown Ideye and Victor Anichebe.

Davies, Reo-Coker, Habib Beye, Harewood, Shorey, Warnock etc  ;D

Both Anichebe & Ideye were apparently heavily incentive based. Anichebe was apparently £4million upfront with the remainder being add-ons.

Brown Ideye was also around £2.5m/£3.5m with his incentives being goals based - Richard Garlick confirmed this at supporters club meetings.

yep a lot of money wasted by us also. Mind you on a squad that kept finishing 6th, got to a cup final and semis in another.

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Re: Scott Sinclair - now confirmed
« Reply #317 on: January 31, 2015, 10:56:32 PM »
However bad he is for us, I bet he still proves better value than £16m on Brown Ideye and Victor Anichebe.


Brown Ideye was also around £2.5m/£3.5m with his incentives being goals based - Richard Garlick confirmed this at supporters club meetings.

Do you really believe that though? If he really was that cheap, how come the club haven't come out and said so publicially to take the pressure off him?

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Re: Scott Sinclair - now confirmed
« Reply #318 on: January 31, 2015, 11:02:03 PM »
Small Heath used to pull that trick. When they wanted to sound ambitious they'd quote the price with add-ons which would include an extra £10m instalment payable if and when humanity is wiped out by an asteroid. Then if the said player was a flop they'd announce he was only on loan anyway.

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Re: Scott Sinclair - now confirmed
« Reply #319 on: January 31, 2015, 11:08:15 PM »
Brown Ideye was also around £2.5m/£3.5m with his incentives being goals based - Richard Garlick confirmed this at supporters club meetings.
Odd.

Your official website seems to claim that you signed him for a club record fee. One that surpassed the fee that you paid for Sessegnon, who was your previous record signing.

If you've only paid £2.5m for him, why is your official website lying about it?

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Re: Scott Sinclair - now confirmed
« Reply #320 on: January 31, 2015, 11:08:33 PM »
Small Heath used to pull that trick. When they wanted to sound ambitious they'd quote the price with add-ons which would include an extra £10m instalment payable if and when humanity is wiped out by an asteroid. Then if the said player was a flop they'd announce he was only on loan anyway.

Like when Doug used to announce the cost of signings and it'd be the transfer fee, the total wages over x years, the national insurance, the VAT, the lot.

Offline adrenachrome

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Re: Scott Sinclair - now confirmed
« Reply #321 on: January 31, 2015, 11:11:44 PM »
Small Heath used to pull that trick. When they wanted to sound ambitious they'd quote the price with add-ons which would include an extra £10m instalment payable if and when humanity is wiped out by an asteroid. Then if the said player was a flop they'd announce he was only on loan anyway.

Like when Doug used to announce the cost of signings and it'd be the transfer fee, the total wages over x years, the national insurance, the VAT, the lot.

Doug was at Small Heath you know. Never forgot a trick.

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Re: Scott Sinclair - now confirmed
« Reply #322 on: January 31, 2015, 11:14:35 PM »
Small Heath used to pull that trick. When they wanted to sound ambitious they'd quote the price with add-ons which would include an extra £10m instalment payable if and when humanity is wiped out by an asteroid. Then if the said player was a flop they'd announce he was only on loan anyway.

Like when Doug used to announce the cost of signings and it'd be the transfer fee, the total wages over x years, the national insurance, the VAT, the lot.

The sandwiches Heidi made for him to take to the meet with the player, the tin foil to wrap them in...etc

Offline Liam_Baggies

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Re: Scott Sinclair - now confirmed
« Reply #323 on: February 01, 2015, 12:29:43 AM »
Your official website seems to claim that you signed him for a club record fee. One that surpassed the fee that you paid for Sessegnon, who was your previous record signing.

If you've only paid £2.5m for him, why is your official website lying about it?

We have a new brand swanking PR system who were probably under orders to spin it as nicely as they could.

Worth remembering the context of the situation - we had just appointed a hopeless head coach. Many fans were disgruntled that Pepe Mel had left and been replaced by somebody who had struggled in League One. Then we had the fiasco with the pin-stripe kit and the furore that created with idiots messing around with our history and tradition. Jeremy Peace and others were coming in for criticism. The club needed to create a positive headline to at least engage supporters and by suggesting we had spent £10million and broken our transfer record portrayed they were showing some ambition - something they are often questioned about.

Given how thorough they are with their scouting and how reluctant we are to spend fees then I fail to believe we spent £10million on someone like Brown Ideye.

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Re: Scott Sinclair - now confirmed
« Reply #324 on: February 01, 2015, 12:42:39 AM »
Watching Delph greet Sinclair at Bodymoor yesterday, I think having a committed Delph constantly moaning at him to get his finger out, in a good way, might well play a big part in Sinclair getting his head down.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Scott Sinclair - now confirmed
« Reply #325 on: February 01, 2015, 01:37:21 AM »
Always found that Tesco's fans stick a few million on any player they sell and knock a few million off any player they buy.

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Re: Scott Sinclair - now confirmed
« Reply #326 on: February 01, 2015, 05:10:00 AM »
Thanks for the perspective Liam Baggies. Hopefully he is a different bloke now. I guess we will find out.

Offline Villafirst

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Re: Scott Sinclair - now confirmed
« Reply #327 on: February 01, 2015, 08:31:38 AM »
Sinclair was superb at Swansea. Man City ruined his form. There's no doubt a very good player in there....perhaps Villa can help him back to his best? Still only 25!

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Re: Scott Sinclair - now confirmed
« Reply #328 on: February 01, 2015, 09:16:00 AM »
Your official website seems to claim that you signed him for a club record fee. One that surpassed the fee that you paid for Sessegnon, who was your previous record signing.

If you've only paid £2.5m for him, why is your official website lying about it?

We have a new brand swanking PR system who were probably under orders to spin it as nicely as they could.

Worth remembering the context of the situation - we had just appointed a hopeless head coach. Many fans were disgruntled that Pepe Mel had left and been replaced by somebody who had struggled in League One. Then we had the fiasco with the pin-stripe kit and the furore that created with idiots messing around with our history and tradition. Jeremy Peace and others were coming in for criticism. The club needed to create a positive headline to at least engage supporters and by suggesting we had spent £10million and broken our transfer record portrayed they were showing some ambition - something they are often questioned about.

Given how thorough they are with their scouting and how reluctant we are to spend fees then I fail to believe we spent £10million on someone like Brown Ideye.

So in other words, they lied to supporters.

Offline Damo70

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Re: Scott Sinclair - now confirmed
« Reply #329 on: February 01, 2015, 09:43:10 AM »
Brown Ideye was also around £2.5m/£3.5m with his incentives being goals based - Richard Garlick confirmed this at supporters club meetings.
Odd.

Your official website seems to claim that you signed him for a club record fee. One that surpassed the fee that you paid for Sessegnon, who was your previous record signing.

If you've only paid £2.5m for him, why is your official website lying about it?

The signings of Brown Ide Girl and Sessegnon remind me of when Sunderland spent a load of money on Tor Andre Flo and Marcus Stewart.

 


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