Lambert's replacement

[Des Little]

I think we had better start getting used to the idea that it's going to be Sherwood. 

[garyfouroaks]

Imagine the scenario - we beat Leicester and look impressive about it. Would Marshall & Marshall be realistic until the end of the season?

No.

[danrjfrost]

Let's not forget what happened with Kevin McDonald whose first match came days after Martin O'Neill 'parted company'...
Game 1: Aston Villa 3 - 0 West Ham (Exciting Attacking football!)
Game 2: Rapid Wien 1-1 Aston Villa
Game 3: Newcastle 6-0 Aston Villa
Game 4: Aston Villa 2-3 Rapid Wien (out of Europa League - the last time we tasted European football)

[walsall villain]

Imagine the scenario - we beat Leicester and look impressive about it. Would Marshall & Marshall be realistic until the end of the season?

Might be too much of a gamble considering our precarious position.

If we were mid-table I'd feel more comfortable with it.

That's pretty much my take, but we've said for ages that a trained monkey could get more out of this squad than Paul Lambert did.

Presumably Lambert wasn't coaching and managing the team in a vacuum? The Marshalls must have had some sort of input into what we've seen for the last few months.

But I'd definitely take them over Sherwood or Hoddle.

It would be madness. It needs a new manager, even if only short term, to shake things up. Where is the evidence that any of the current staff have any more idea than Lambert did?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Let's not forget what happened with Kevin McDonald whose first match came days after Martin O'Neill 'parted company'...
Game 1: Aston Villa 3 - 0 West Ham (Exciting Attacking football!)
Game 2: Rapid Wien 1-1 Aston Villa
Game 3: Newcastle 6-0 Aston Villa
Game 4: Aston Villa 2-3 Rapid Wien (out of Europa League - the last time we tasted European football)

Exactly my fear.

[Toronto Villa]

Imagine the scenario - we beat Leicester and look impressive about it. Would Marshall & Marshall be realistic until the end of the season?

Might be too much of a gamble considering our precarious position.

If we were mid-table I'd feel more comfortable with it.

That's pretty much my take, but we've said for ages that a trained monkey could get more out of this squad than Paul Lambert did.

Presumably Lambert wasn't coaching and managing the team in a vacuum? The Marshalls must have had some sort of input into what we've seen for the last few months.

But I'd definitely take them over Sherwood or Hoddle.

you have to wonder though how much of Lambert's fear of losing overwhelmed all of the decisions he made? Not saying the other coaches aren't a part of the issue sometimes it takes something as radical as a managerial dismissal to allow the oxygen to flow again. We are talking about a man who couldn't keep his assistants and you to believe by the end so paranoid that couldn't hire his third assistant in three years. That he was in a position to be hiring his third assistant in three years is ludicrous in itself.

[Holte L2]

He's always struck me that thinks he knows more than he does.  Talks the talk, but can't walk the walk.

Just going through his Managerial career. He hasn't done anything of any real worth.

Swindon - Achieved Promotion.
Chelsea - Finished 11th
England - upset the dressing room with his treatment of the players over deciding his World Cup 98 squad, Upset Beckham by announcing publicly his dropping from the Tunisia game. Despite him being one of our best players.  Refused to play in-form Owen until it was apparent we needed his goals.  Sacked by declaring his religious beliefs.
Southampton - Lasted a year before joining Tottenham
Tottenham - Finished 10th place.
Wolves - Finished 7th.  8 points off the play offs

also taken from Wikipedia:

In April 2014 he revealed he had come close to taking over from Andre Villas Boas at Tottenham, before the job was given to Tim Sherwood.

"I did have talks with Daniel Levy and the club," Hoddle said. "He wanted a little bit of advice and a bit of a sounding board for himself. "[I said) 'I am there for you if you want me to take it to the end of the season and then we will have a little look at it then, I would be prepared to do that'. "I wouldn't do it for any other club for that short period of time. It was just that it is in my DNA. I have loved my time at other clubs, I really have, but being a Spurs supporter since I was eight, going there very young, it is in my blood

Glenn Hoddle's biggest fan is Glenn Hoddle.  He'd be a disaster. 

The above is as myopic, churlish and curmudgeonly an assessment of Hoddles career as I have ever seen.

At Swindon, he took a nothing side into the top flight playing fabulous football. A remarkable achievement in itself.

At Chelsea he managed no better than 11th in an era when that was no disgrace for Chelsea, but also took them to an FA Cup final , an FA Cup semi and a  CWC semi.

For England, his win ratio is bettered only by Sir Alf and Capello, and we qualified for finals tournaments.

At Saints he saved them from relegation ending a creditable tenth when he left.

At Spurs he reached a LC final and improved on the previous league finish- just.

Wolves didn’t work out- but he is in good company there.

I am not suggesting that Hoddle is in the managerial elite now- but we are not dining off that table.

He does know what the PL is about, at Swindon he showed he has what it takes to get a side out of the second tier ( which we may well need) the England job gives him credibility, at Chelsea and Spurs he showed talent in the Cups and hopefully he will have learned from the Wolves experience. More recently his time at QPR means he knows what a relegation dog fight looks like, a battle he won with Saints.

It is difficult to see anyone else with anything like those credentials being available. No-one comes with a satisfaction guaranteed stamp, but if you think he would be a disaster, wait for a few other names.

This is the line that rules him out:  "He does know what the PL is about"

He's always struck me that thinks he knows more than he does.  Talks the talk, but can't walk the walk.

Just going through his Managerial career. He hasn't done anything of any real worth.

Swindon - Achieved Promotion.
Chelsea - Finished 11th
England - upset the dressing room with his treatment of the players over deciding his World Cup 98 squad, Upset Beckham by announcing publicly his dropping from the Tunisia game. Despite him being one of our best players.  Refused to play in-form Owen until it was apparent we needed his goals.  Sacked by declaring his religious beliefs.
Southampton - Lasted a year before joining Tottenham
Tottenham - Finished 10th place.
Wolves - Finished 7th.  8 points off the play offs

also taken from Wikipedia:

In April 2014 he revealed he had come close to taking over from Andre Villas Boas at Tottenham, before the job was given to Tim Sherwood.

"I did have talks with Daniel Levy and the club," Hoddle said. "He wanted a little bit of advice and a bit of a sounding board for himself. "[I said) 'I am there for you if you want me to take it to the end of the season and then we will have a little look at it then, I would be prepared to do that'. "I wouldn't do it for any other club for that short period of time. It was just that it is in my DNA. I have loved my time at other clubs, I really have, but being a Spurs supporter since I was eight, going there very young, it is in my blood

Glenn Hoddle's biggest fan is Glenn Hoddle.  He'd be a disaster. 

The above is as myopic, churlish and curmudgeonly an assessment of Hoddles career as I have ever seen.

At Swindon, he took a nothing side into the top flight playing fabulous football. A remarkable achievement in itself.

At Chelsea he managed no better than 11th in an era when that was no disgrace for Chelsea, but also took them to an FA Cup final , an FA Cup semi and a  CWC semi.

For England, his win ratio is bettered only by Sir Alf and Capello, and we qualified for finals tournaments.

At Saints he saved them from relegation ending a creditable tenth when he left.

At Spurs he reached a LC final and improved on the previous league finish- just.

Wolves didn’t work out- but he is in good company there.

I am not suggesting that Hoddle is in the managerial elite now- but we are not dining off that table.

He does know what the PL is about, at Swindon he showed he has what it takes to get a side out of the second tier ( which we may well need) the England job gives him credibility, at Chelsea and Spurs he showed talent in the Cups and hopefully he will have learned from the Wolves experience. More recently his time at QPR means he knows what a relegation dog fight looks like, a battle he won with Saints.

It is difficult to see anyone else with anything like those credentials being available. No-one comes with a satisfaction guaranteed stamp, but if you think he would be a disaster, wait for a few other names.

Appointing Glenn Hoddle is a huge backwards step.  I would actually rather have Paul Lambert.  There I've said it, and I mean it. 

We have the opportunity to explore the continent and appoint an exciting young manager with fresh ideas.

Appointing Hoddle will set us back to the days of DOL. He's yesterdays man.

[Rudy65]

He's always struck me that thinks he knows more than he does.  Talks the talk, but can't walk the walk.

Just going through his Managerial career. He hasn't done anything of any real worth.

Swindon - Achieved Promotion.
Chelsea - Finished 11th
England - upset the dressing room with his treatment of the players over deciding his World Cup 98 squad, Upset Beckham by announcing publicly his dropping from the Tunisia game. Despite him being one of our best players.  Refused to play in-form Owen until it was apparent we needed his goals.  Sacked by declaring his religious beliefs.
Southampton - Lasted a year before joining Tottenham
Tottenham - Finished 10th place.
Wolves - Finished 7th.  8 points off the play offs

also taken from Wikipedia:

In April 2014 he revealed he had come close to taking over from Andre Villas Boas at Tottenham, before the job was given to Tim Sherwood.

"I did have talks with Daniel Levy and the club," Hoddle said. "He wanted a little bit of advice and a bit of a sounding board for himself. "[I said) 'I am there for you if you want me to take it to the end of the season and then we will have a little look at it then, I would be prepared to do that'. "I wouldn't do it for any other club for that short period of time. It was just that it is in my DNA. I have loved my time at other clubs, I really have, but being a Spurs supporter since I was eight, going there very young, it is in my blood

Glenn Hoddle's biggest fan is Glenn Hoddle.  He'd be a disaster. 

The above is as myopic, churlish and curmudgeonly an assessment of Hoddles career as I have ever seen.

At Swindon, he took a nothing side into the top flight playing fabulous football. A remarkable achievement in itself.

At Chelsea he managed no better than 11th in an era when that was no disgrace for Chelsea, but also took them to an FA Cup final , an FA Cup semi and a  CWC semi.

For England, his win ratio is bettered only by Sir Alf and Capello, and we qualified for finals tournaments.

At Saints he saved them from relegation ending a creditable tenth when he left.

At Spurs he reached a LC final and improved on the previous league finish- just.

Wolves didn’t work out- but he is in good company there.

I am not suggesting that Hoddle is in the managerial elite now- but we are not dining off that table.

He does know what the PL is about, at Swindon he showed he has what it takes to get a side out of the second tier ( which we may well need) the England job gives him credibility, at Chelsea and Spurs he showed talent in the Cups and hopefully he will have learned from the Wolves experience. More recently his time at QPR means he knows what a relegation dog fight looks like, a battle he won with Saints.

It is difficult to see anyone else with anything like those credentials being available. No-one comes with a satisfaction guaranteed stamp, but if you think he would be a disaster, wait for a few other names.

Agree with you

He would also get the immediate respect of the players.

Far better than Sherwood who has no track record whatsoever

[paul_e]

For all the positives you can come up with for Hoddle the simple counter is that he's fucking vile and his appointment would instantly piss off a section of the support.  The last thing we need is a manager who is disliked by many before he's even signed the contract.

[PaulWinch again]

Imagine the scenario - we beat Leicester and look impressive about it. Would Marshall & Marshall be realistic until the end of the season?

Not for me, it would remind a bit too much of Kmac's brief reign. Leicester are a poor side and we may improve now Lambert isn't about, but both Marshalls have been involved with this team for a while now.

[Billy Walker]

He's always struck me that thinks he knows more than he does.  Talks the talk, but can't walk the walk.

Just going through his Managerial career. He hasn't done anything of any real worth.

Swindon - Achieved Promotion.
Chelsea - Finished 11th
England - upset the dressing room with his treatment of the players over deciding his World Cup 98 squad, Upset Beckham by announcing publicly his dropping from the Tunisia game. Despite him being one of our best players.  Refused to play in-form Owen until it was apparent we needed his goals.  Sacked by declaring his religious beliefs.
Southampton - Lasted a year before joining Tottenham
Tottenham - Finished 10th place.
Wolves - Finished 7th.  8 points off the play offs

also taken from Wikipedia:

In April 2014 he revealed he had come close to taking over from Andre Villas Boas at Tottenham, before the job was given to Tim Sherwood.

"I did have talks with Daniel Levy and the club," Hoddle said. "He wanted a little bit of advice and a bit of a sounding board for himself. "[I said) 'I am there for you if you want me to take it to the end of the season and then we will have a little look at it then, I would be prepared to do that'. "I wouldn't do it for any other club for that short period of time. It was just that it is in my DNA. I have loved my time at other clubs, I really have, but being a Spurs supporter since I was eight, going there very young, it is in my blood

Glenn Hoddle's biggest fan is Glenn Hoddle.  He'd be a disaster. 

The above is as myopic, churlish and curmudgeonly an assessment of Hoddles career as I have ever seen.

At Swindon, he took a nothing side into the top flight playing fabulous football. A remarkable achievement in itself.

At Chelsea he managed no better than 11th in an era when that was no disgrace for Chelsea, but also took them to an FA Cup final , an FA Cup semi and a  CWC semi.

For England, his win ratio is bettered only by Sir Alf and Capello, and we qualified for finals tournaments.

At Saints he saved them from relegation ending a creditable tenth when he left.

At Spurs he reached a LC final and improved on the previous league finish- just.

Wolves didn’t work out- but he is in good company there.

I am not suggesting that Hoddle is in the managerial elite now- but we are not dining off that table.

He does know what the PL is about, at Swindon he showed he has what it takes to get a side out of the second tier ( which we may well need) the England job gives him credibility, at Chelsea and Spurs he showed talent in the Cups and hopefully he will have learned from the Wolves experience. More recently his time at QPR means he knows what a relegation dog fight looks like, a battle he won with Saints.

It is difficult to see anyone else with anything like those credentials being available. No-one comes with a satisfaction guaranteed stamp, but if you think he would be a disaster, wait for a few other names.

Agree with you

He would also get the immediate respect of the players.

Far better than Sherwood who has no track record whatsoever

Hoddle would get the immediate respect of people of a certain generation, for sure, but I doubt very much he would get the whole-hearted respect of modern day Premier League players in the here and now.   What impact did he make at QPR recently?   He's yesterday's man and would represent a cheap and rather desperate appointment in my view.   

[Small Rodent]

According to Sunderland chums, Poyet may be on the verge of walking. If not now, in summer. Fed up with underperforming overpaid squad and unfortunately thinks Sunderland fans are living in the past.

[b23]

I think we had better start getting used to the idea that it's going to be Sherwood. 

Not necessarily. The strong rumour i'm hearing is Gareth Southgate.

[Phil from the upper holte]

Not a fan of Poyet

[Richard E]

Fed up with underperforming overpaid squad and unfortunately thinks...fans are living in the past.

He's not going to be attracted to coming here then!