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Offline Dave

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1455 on: February 13, 2015, 01:37:52 PM »
More Spuds thoughts on 'Tactics Tim':

http://7500toholte.sbnation.com/2015/2/13/8031277/aston-villa-manager-tim-sherwood-paul-lambert-tottenham-hotspur

Jesus, that is absolutely awul.

Anybody that makes Lambert look like a tactical genius should be avoided.

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Tim made absolutely no tactical countermoves all match. It was like a chess match in which one player moves his pawns down the board and the other chooses to forfeit his turns instead of play, claiming his pieces need to show more belief in themselves.

Cracking line.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1456 on: February 13, 2015, 01:38:34 PM »
Imagine the scenario - we beat Leicester and look impressive about it. Would Marshall & Marshall be realistic until the end of the season?

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1457 on: February 13, 2015, 01:39:42 PM »
Is Sherwood actually being considered? I have my doubts. Any job that comes about; West Brom, Palace, QPR and now us, he gets mentioned.

The Brum Mail have even said he's been contacted.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1458 on: February 13, 2015, 01:41:28 PM »
Imagine the scenario - we beat Leicester and look impressive about it. Would Marshall & Marshall be realistic until the end of the season?

Might be too much of a gamble considering our precarious position.

If we were mid-table I'd feel more comfortable with it.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1459 on: February 13, 2015, 01:43:52 PM »
Imagine the scenario - we beat Leicester and look impressive about it. Would Marshall & Marshall be realistic until the end of the season?

That's consistent with the argument that these players just need to be lead by someone who is not PL. It certainly could work.



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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1460 on: February 13, 2015, 01:44:10 PM »
Imagine the scenario - we beat Leicester and look impressive about it. Would Marshall & Marshall be realistic until the end of the season?

Might be too much of a gamble considering our precarious position.

If we were mid-table I'd feel more comfortable with it.

That's pretty much my take, but we've said for ages that a trained monkey could get more out of this squad than Paul Lambert did.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1461 on: February 13, 2015, 01:45:18 PM »
More Spuds thoughts on 'Tactics Tim':

http://7500toholte.sbnation.com/2015/2/13/8031277/aston-villa-manager-tim-sherwood-paul-lambert-tottenham-hotspur

Jesus, that is absolutely awul.

Anybody that makes Lambert look like a tactical genius should be avoided.

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Tim made absolutely no tactical countermoves all match. It was like a chess match in which one player moves his pawns down the board and the other chooses to forfeit his turns instead of play, claiming his pieces need to show more belief in themselves.

Cracking line.

I like 'if you use the word YOLO in everyday conversation...then Tim is the manager for you.'

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1462 on: February 13, 2015, 01:46:27 PM »
I have no time left for humour at the expense of Birmingham.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1463 on: February 13, 2015, 01:48:33 PM »
Imagine the scenario - we beat Leicester and look impressive about it. Would Marshall & Marshall be realistic until the end of the season?

I was thinking the same last night. Not saying until the end of the season, but it would afford us a bit more time to make the right appointment. I honestly believe more than it being about the two Marshall's, the team will play with a lot more freedom simply because Lambert isn't there. I expect not just Benteke to be back, but the coaches to take the shackles off this weekend and let them play. Now we know that the good feeling only lasts so long but there might just be enough in the bottle to stretch it out for a couple of weeks. By Stoke I expect us to have someone close to being appointed.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1464 on: February 13, 2015, 01:50:20 PM »
Why do we need someone with PL experience - Lambert and Warnock had it, Koeman and Pochettino didnt - its means nothing
There are probably a dozen more that have backfired - its very risky plus Koeman had a preseason to settle in. Our new guy will probably have a few days to prepare before Stoke City at Home, someone with knowledge of the current premier league teams must have an advantage over someone who will be living out of a suitcase, have to navigate round the M6 roadworks, learn a different language and during the day manage the expectations of one of the most demanding football clubs in the country.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1465 on: February 13, 2015, 01:50:26 PM »
I can't see that happening, particularly as those in charge seem to appreciate the need for additional coaching, so would they really stretch the resources of our coaching department even further?

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1466 on: February 13, 2015, 01:56:02 PM »
Imagine the scenario - we beat Leicester and look impressive about it. Would Marshall & Marshall be realistic until the end of the season?

Might be too much of a gamble considering our precarious position.

If we were mid-table I'd feel more comfortable with it.

That's pretty much my take, but we've said for ages that a trained monkey could get more out of this squad than Paul Lambert did.

Scott Marshall now 4th favourite for the gig according to oddschecker, joint 3rd with BetVictor.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1467 on: February 13, 2015, 01:57:57 PM »
He's always struck me that thinks he knows more than he does.  Talks the talk, but can't walk the walk.

Just going through his Managerial career. He hasn't done anything of any real worth.

Swindon - Achieved Promotion.
Chelsea - Finished 11th
England - upset the dressing room with his treatment of the players over deciding his World Cup 98 squad, Upset Beckham by announcing publicly his dropping from the Tunisia game. Despite him being one of our best players.  Refused to play in-form Owen until it was apparent we needed his goals.  Sacked by declaring his religious beliefs.
Southampton - Lasted a year before joining Tottenham
Tottenham - Finished 10th place.
Wolves - Finished 7th.  8 points off the play offs

also taken from Wikipedia:

In April 2014 he revealed he had come close to taking over from Andre Villas Boas at Tottenham, before the job was given to Tim Sherwood.

"I did have talks with Daniel Levy and the club," Hoddle said. "He wanted a little bit of advice and a bit of a sounding board for himself. "[I said) 'I am there for you if you want me to take it to the end of the season and then we will have a little look at it then, I would be prepared to do that'. "I wouldn't do it for any other club for that short period of time. It was just that it is in my DNA. I have loved my time at other clubs, I really have, but being a Spurs supporter since I was eight, going there very young, it is in my blood

Glenn Hoddle's biggest fan is Glenn Hoddle.  He'd be a disaster. 
The above is as myopic, churlish and curmudgeonly an assessment of Hoddles career as I have ever seen.

At Swindon, he took a nothing side into the top flight playing fabulous football. A remarkable achievement in itself.

At Chelsea he managed no better than 11th in an era when that was no disgrace for Chelsea, but also took them to an FA Cup final , an FA Cup semi and a  CWC semi.

For England, his win ratio is bettered only by Sir Alf and Capello, and we qualified for finals tournaments.

At Saints he saved them from relegation ending a creditable tenth when he left.

At Spurs he reached a LC final and improved on the previous league finish- just.

Wolves didn’t work out- but he is in good company there.

I am not suggesting that Hoddle is in the managerial elite now- but we are not dining off that table.

He does know what the PL is about, at Swindon he showed he has what it takes to get a side out of the second tier ( which we may well need) the England job gives him credibility, at Chelsea and Spurs he showed talent in the Cups and hopefully he will have learned from the Wolves experience. More recently his time at QPR means he knows what a relegation dog fight looks like, a battle he won with Saints.

It is difficult to see anyone else with anything like those credentials being available. No-one comes with a satisfaction guaranteed stamp, but if you think he would be a disaster, wait for a few other names.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1468 on: February 13, 2015, 01:58:20 PM »
Imagine the scenario - we beat Leicester and look impressive about it. Would Marshall & Marshall be realistic until the end of the season?

Might be too much of a gamble considering our precarious position.

If we were mid-table I'd feel more comfortable with it.

That's pretty much my take, but we've said for ages that a trained monkey could get more out of this squad than Paul Lambert did.
Presumably Lambert wasn't coaching and managing the team in a vacuum? The Marshalls must have had some sort of input into what we've seen for the last few months.

But I'd definitely take them over Sherwood or Hoddle.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1469 on: February 13, 2015, 01:59:22 PM »
Imagine the scenario - we beat Leicester and look impressive about it. Would Marshall & Marshall be realistic until the end of the season?
No. Not for me. You play with Fire you get burnt.

 


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