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Offline Legion

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #690 on: February 11, 2015, 10:29:16 PM »
Cesare Prandelli, please.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #691 on: February 11, 2015, 10:30:59 PM »
Why are people saying allardyce and Moyes ? They are not available and would never come

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #692 on: February 11, 2015, 10:31:15 PM »
Quite simply, don't appoint anyone on the basis that "they're Villa", "they understand the club", or any other Geordiesque nonsense.

Pick the best man for the job.

I agree. I do hate all that 'Villa connections' rot.

We're a great club, and to us a very special club, but we're not appointing someone to the Supporters' Trust. We're a football club in a certain footballing circumstance and that's all there is to it.

Absolute bunkum from the pair of you

They have just put a list of the last 9 Villa managers win rates up on TV
only two have Villa connections through playing and they lie 1st  and 3rd in that league

Little and Atkinson, I guess? Both of them were absolutely the right choice at the time. If there was someone of their ilk who happened to have a Villa connection now, we'd all be wanting him appointed.

But there isn't. There's the virtually-retired (Taylor, Little again), the unproven (Laursen, Mellberg) and the proven-to-be-useless (Southgate, Staunton).

We should appoint the best man available. In 1991 and 1994 the best man available happened to have Villa links (albeit, tenuous ones, it Atkinson's case).

In 2015, there is no ex-Villa player or manager that fits the bill, so we need to look further afield.

If we were to just phone Peter Withe or Alan McInally and say "we've no idea if you'd be any good but you used to play for us so would you like to become manager of Aston Villa on £3 million a year?" we'd be laughing stocks, just like Newcastle were when they gave Shearer a job, and rightly so.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #693 on: February 11, 2015, 10:31:31 PM »
 I'd have Prandelli as well.

 Time to act big RL, over to you.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #694 on: February 11, 2015, 10:31:52 PM »
We're not going to get our dream choice mid season so get someone in on a short term contract til the summer and that way we limit our risk. Given the pool we're fishing in any of the names suggested would jump at the chance.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #695 on: February 11, 2015, 10:31:59 PM »
Quite simply, don't appoint anyone on the basis that "they're Villa", "they understand the club", or any other Geordiesque nonsense.

Pick the best man for the job.

I agree. I do hate all that 'Villa connections' rot.

We're a great club, and to us a very special club, but we're not appointing someone to the Supporters' Trust. We're a football club in a certain footballing circumstance and that's all there is to it.

Absolute bunkum from the pair of you

They have just put a list of the last 9 Villa managers win rates up on TV
only two have Villa connections through playing and they lie 1st  and 3rd in that league

And how true is that for any other team in the world? What's so different about Villa in this regard?

Actually no, you're right. I reckon Dwight Yorke would be a better manager for us than Pep Guardiola. After all, Pep has no Villa connections, does he?

Pep Guardiola, Dwight Yorke what you going on about
You said you hate 'all that villa connections rot' yet the two managers out of a list of nine are only split at the top by MON who had a fuck load of money

So it proves you wrong, the mangers with villa connections statistically have been better than those without
To say you hate that is just a rediculous statement, and the bit about pep and yorke is bonkers too

It doesn't prove me wrong 'statistically' or otherwise. Why should Villa connections matter at all? It's sentimental bullshit, and who cares if it worked in the past, why would it work now?

As for Yorke and Pep, I just followed through your argument to its conclusion, namely how much do Villa connections ultimately matter? Clearly, as you seem to have admitted, Pep would be better than Yorke, so it doesn't seem to matter that much.

Didn't pep take over the team he played for as his first managerial job, didn't go to bad for him if I remember correctly
I bet Barca are glad they didn't go down your route of not appointing any old playing legends with sentimental bullshit, your now going to say he was the right man for the job, well of coarse he was, but if he had of played for Madrid he wouldn't have been offered it I'm damn sure,

I'm sort of in agreement with you, it shouldn't matter, but it also should not be discarded as bullshit just because it has a bit of sentiment about it, as in the pep and simeone appointments


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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #696 on: February 11, 2015, 10:32:56 PM »
Klinsmann would be the dream appointment.

I could see Southgate doing a decent job, though would be a gamble. Neil Lennon could be a shout also.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #697 on: February 11, 2015, 10:34:02 PM »
Cesare Prandelli, please.

Ideally yes. It would be a brilliant appoinwnt and put us right back on the map of significance.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #698 on: February 11, 2015, 10:34:47 PM »
How about old Bob whatsisname, that American chap that we all thought we'd end up with?
Quite clearly Des, your brain and mine work on similar levels.

Bob?
Wasn't it Brad? Or Chuck? Cecil (pronounced Seesill, obviously!).

Up The Villa mate!

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #699 on: February 11, 2015, 10:35:35 PM »
Prandellli, Laudrup and Wenger  ???  are unlikely in our current predicament.

Even a traditional stodgy English bloater like Sam Allthepies would probably see himself as far too good for us.

Clement or Karanka might be more realistic. 

I wouldn't be dead set against Sherwood either. 

Limited experience as a manager, true.  But plenty of experience as a coach. And by Christ, we could do with some coaching.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #700 on: February 11, 2015, 10:36:47 PM »
Klinsmann would be the dream appointment.

I could see Southgate doing a decent job, though would be a gamble. Neil Lennon could be a shout also.

There's no chance of Klinnsman coming here though.

Prandelli, dunno. Is he any good?

Break the bank for Jurgen Klopp.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #701 on: February 11, 2015, 10:37:18 PM »
Cesare Prandelli, please.

In a bloody heartbeat.

It will be interesting though to see how much vision & clout the club has. If its someone like Prandelli then we are in pretty good shape, if its one of the expected plodders then we know we are in for more of the same.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #702 on: February 11, 2015, 10:37:40 PM »
I think any of Prandelli, Klinsmann or Klopp would be seismic. Brilliant, ambitious appointments. Any other candidates I've seen mentioned I would be underwhelmed by, some less than others.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #703 on: February 11, 2015, 10:37:49 PM »
For me I wouldn't bring in a foreign coach for a relegation scrap. Magath at Fulham last season showed that it's a tough ask to come inand nail it straight away.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #704 on: February 11, 2015, 10:39:27 PM »
Barca are a different beast, because it's about the structure of the club and the style of play. They wouldn't just go and appoint, I don't know, Bernd Schuster because he played for them - since Johann Cruyff the whole club has played a certain way through to the youth teams, and managers tend to get fired if they go too far away from this and wind up the players and fans by doing so (Rijkaard, Van Gaal - the Dutch connection is powerful too). They probably wouldn't appoint a Real legend, but that's hardly every other club in the world - for the most part, they hire managers who didn't play for them.

Simeone only went back because he cared about Atletico that much, but he's a brilliant manager nonetheless. He is good because he is good, not because he likes Atletico - he's only there because he likes them. As CD says, name a former Villa player who is also a brilliant manager.

 


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