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Offline mr-villa

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #675 on: February 11, 2015, 10:23:06 PM »
Has Fox ever appointed a manager before? Or been involved in the search for on?

I'm worried. Very worried.

can't possibly do a worse job than the clown Faulkner managed during his tenure

Offline passport1

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #676 on: February 11, 2015, 10:23:37 PM »
What all of this boils down to is that we are now relying on the decision making of an owner who has made one poor decision after another.


The only time we will be safe is when he is gone.

Offline Karl Bridges

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #677 on: February 11, 2015, 10:23:49 PM »
Someone just mentioned Paul Ince to me. I'm going to have nightmares now.

Offline Brian Taylor

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #678 on: February 11, 2015, 10:24:04 PM »
My personal choice for what it is worth

Hoddle as DOF - big enough name in the game to command some respect

Sherwood - tough fucker who got a bunch of turncoat prima donnas playing and winning in a short space of time after they stopped playing for AVB

Contracts till end of season with a huge financial incentive based on keeping us up

Then reassess in the close season

I think Joe Jordan and 'Arry plus the dog would be a better proposal.   Infinitely better to keep us in the Prem!

Offline Monty

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #679 on: February 11, 2015, 10:24:15 PM »
Quite simply, don't appoint anyone on the basis that "they're Villa", "they understand the club", or any other Geordiesque nonsense.

Pick the best man for the job.

I agree. I do hate all that 'Villa connections' rot.

We're a great club, and to us a very special club, but we're not appointing someone to the Supporters' Trust. We're a football club in a certain footballing circumstance and that's all there is to it.

Absolute bunkum from the pair of you

They have just put a list of the last 9 Villa managers win rates up on TV
only two have Villa connections through playing and they lie 1st  and 3rd in that league

And how true is that for any other team in the world? What's so different about Villa in this regard?

Actually no, you're right. I reckon Dwight Yorke would be a better manager for us than Pep Guardiola. After all, Pep has no Villa connections, does he?

Pep Guardiola, Dwight Yorke what you going on about
You said you hate 'all that villa connections rot' yet the two managers out of a list of nine are only split at the top by MON who had a fuck load of money

So it proves you wrong, the mangers with villa connections statistically have been better than those without
To say you hate that is just a rediculous statement, and the bit about pep and yorke is bonkers too

It doesn't prove me wrong 'statistically' or otherwise. Why should Villa connections matter at all? It's sentimental bullshit, and who cares if it worked in the past, why would it work now?

As for Yorke and Pep, I just followed through your argument to its conclusion, namely how much do Villa connections ultimately matter? Clearly, as you seem to have admitted, Pep would be better than Yorke, so it doesn't seem to matter that much.

Offline Des Little

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #680 on: February 11, 2015, 10:25:04 PM »
How about old Bob whatsisname, that American chap that we all thought we'd end up with?

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #681 on: February 11, 2015, 10:25:12 PM »
Curbishley always gets linked
#rules

Offline Tuscans

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #682 on: February 11, 2015, 10:25:27 PM »
OOoooooh look at us all talking about the next Villa manager....like it's going to happen. He's signed a new contract and won't get sacked so what's the point on talking about the next mana......... :)

Offline Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #683 on: February 11, 2015, 10:26:44 PM »
Sven ?

Offline curiousorange

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #684 on: February 11, 2015, 10:27:33 PM »
I get the Sherwood thing about being a bastard, but these players have had experience of that with the ultimate bastard in Keane, and it didn't help. Scoff if you will, but players like Benteke and Cleverley look like they need an arm around the shoulders rather than a punch to the gut. The team look petrified to go anywhere near the ball. What I want in a new boss more than anything is a man who makes the team believe they can go to places like Old Trafford and compete. We haven't had that for twenty years, maybe more.

Offline frankmosswasmyuncle

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #685 on: February 11, 2015, 10:28:16 PM »
Did I hear right on 5Live just?
Interviewed a fan who hasn't seen us play this season but thinks SBL/someone "with connections with the club" would be the best appointment.

Surely, don't we just want a really good football coach, not just a Villa "fan"?

Offline Concrete John

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #686 on: February 11, 2015, 10:28:22 PM »
Little and Gregory did well, but one broke our transfer record twice in one summer and the other had the windfall of the Yorke money and Doug floating the club.  MON had the Randy cash.

It's z sad fact, but money talks in this game far more than having a prior connection to the club.

Offline Gregorys Boy

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #687 on: February 11, 2015, 10:28:35 PM »
Sherwood would be a poor appointment.  Yes he did ok at Tottenham, but difference was he had a much better squad, they were not fighting the drop, and he knew the job club well.

One from Moyes, Allerdyce, Laudrup, Klinnsman would do me.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #688 on: February 11, 2015, 10:28:44 PM »
Quite simply, don't appoint anyone on the basis that "they're Villa", "they understand the club", or any other Geordiesque nonsense.

Pick the best man for the job.

I agree. I do hate all that 'Villa connections' rot.

We're a great club, and to us a very special club, but we're not appointing someone to the Supporters' Trust. We're a football club in a certain footballing circumstance and that's all there is to it.

Absolute bunkum from the pair of you

They have just put a list of the last 9 Villa managers win rates up on TV
only two have Villa connections through playing and they lie 1st  and 3rd in that league

There is a difference though: Little was in work at another Premier League club and came with a decent-ish managerial record, whilst Gregory was part of the successful coaching set up during Little's reign and had some kudos amongst some of the squad for that rather than his rather mediocre Villa playing career.    What some people are now suggesting has no basis in any reality of any managerial/coaching record.  I don't want Sid/Southgate/Taylor,I/Mellberg/whoever on the sole basis that they once played for us.

Offline ciggiesnbeer

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #689 on: February 11, 2015, 10:29:01 PM »
How about old Bob whatsisname, that American chap that we all thought we'd end up with?

Bob Bradley? Only a year into his new job in Norway I think. Decent coach but more dour then Lambert (yes really) on the plus side he is pretty ruthless with players.

 


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