Quote from: Villan For Life on November 05, 2015, 11:28:07 AMIt was disappointing to lose the series 2-0 so for what it's worth here are my opinions:There is something fundamentally wrong with the batting which has been in collective decline since 2011. Only Cook and Root performed in this series to expectations with the rest failing. We have problems at 2 and 3. Ali is not an opener and no doubt they will select Hales for the 1st test in South Africa. Hales is not a natural opener and this next cab off the rank philosophy just isn't working. Hales struggled in the one day series against the Aussies and it will be interesting to see how he does in the one day series against Pakistan. The number 2 spot really is a poisoned chalice. Alex it's your turn so good luck against Steyn, Morkel, Philander and Rabada, who in particular is seriously quick.We badly need someone to step up from county cricket or go back to the likes of Lyth, Carberry or Compton. I expect that they will select Bell for the South Africa series and he really is in the last chance saloon now. I don't think that they will go to South Africa with an inexperienced batting line up so your time is now Mr Bell.The continued batting collapses suggests a deeper malaise. Earlier today someone on TMS claimed that we've suffered batting collapses in 18 out of the last 25 innings which is a startling stat. Technically the players seem to be OK. Yes you do get the odd fault creeping into a technique but the players have the talent to bat well and bat long. At the highest level in many sports, the difference between success and failure is, it is suggested, mental strength. We are like rabbits caught in headlights far too often so we need to address this problem and fast. I question Ramprakash as batting coach. He was a wonderful batsman but struggled at test level because he did not have the prerequisite mental strength. How can we expect him to coach mental strength when he struggled himself?Anderson and Broad bowled brilliantly and were well supported by the other seamers. They kept us in this series when it looked like it was getting away from us. The spinners were a massive disappointment but you cannot blame them because they are the best we've got available.We have a county system that places too much emphasis on T20 cricket. It's plain daft to play the bulk of 4 day Cricket in the spring when conditions do not suit spinners. In the drier months of the summer the county sides play a repeated set of limited over cricket which hampers the development of spinners. It's no co-incidence that the two best spinners of the last 10 years Swann and Panesar both learnt their trade on spin-friendly pitches at Northamptonshire. Last season Northants were docked points for a spinning pitch. We need to decide on what our prioities are. A successful test side normally means an increase in county attendances. Come on ECB sort it out!I slightly disagree here, the biggest problem is that spin (other than the top 5-6 in the world) will never be as good as swing bowling in English conditions. For that reason English spinners don't bowl enough overs and when they do bowl they're expected to slow the run rate from one end so a seamer can have a bit more freedom to do damage at the other. How often, ever, have you seen reports of 2-3 spinners bowling at both ends and destroying a team in England, at any time in the summer. What we need to do therefore is find a way to get our spinners playing in games where they can be the main threat and the seamers are support them. The simplest way would be to encourage more English players to play abroad for a few years but English sports boards (all of them) have a problem with doing that, they'd much rather keep the players local.An alternative would be to get some of the county sides to 'tour' to places like india, SA and Aus and learn to play in different conditions so an international call up isn't the first time they experience those conditions in a competitive match. Somehow our players to get that experience, particularly our spinners for sub-continent conditions.
It was disappointing to lose the series 2-0 so for what it's worth here are my opinions:There is something fundamentally wrong with the batting which has been in collective decline since 2011. Only Cook and Root performed in this series to expectations with the rest failing. We have problems at 2 and 3. Ali is not an opener and no doubt they will select Hales for the 1st test in South Africa. Hales is not a natural opener and this next cab off the rank philosophy just isn't working. Hales struggled in the one day series against the Aussies and it will be interesting to see how he does in the one day series against Pakistan. The number 2 spot really is a poisoned chalice. Alex it's your turn so good luck against Steyn, Morkel, Philander and Rabada, who in particular is seriously quick.We badly need someone to step up from county cricket or go back to the likes of Lyth, Carberry or Compton. I expect that they will select Bell for the South Africa series and he really is in the last chance saloon now. I don't think that they will go to South Africa with an inexperienced batting line up so your time is now Mr Bell.The continued batting collapses suggests a deeper malaise. Earlier today someone on TMS claimed that we've suffered batting collapses in 18 out of the last 25 innings which is a startling stat. Technically the players seem to be OK. Yes you do get the odd fault creeping into a technique but the players have the talent to bat well and bat long. At the highest level in many sports, the difference between success and failure is, it is suggested, mental strength. We are like rabbits caught in headlights far too often so we need to address this problem and fast. I question Ramprakash as batting coach. He was a wonderful batsman but struggled at test level because he did not have the prerequisite mental strength. How can we expect him to coach mental strength when he struggled himself?Anderson and Broad bowled brilliantly and were well supported by the other seamers. They kept us in this series when it looked like it was getting away from us. The spinners were a massive disappointment but you cannot blame them because they are the best we've got available.We have a county system that places too much emphasis on T20 cricket. It's plain daft to play the bulk of 4 day Cricket in the spring when conditions do not suit spinners. In the drier months of the summer the county sides play a repeated set of limited over cricket which hampers the development of spinners. It's no co-incidence that the two best spinners of the last 10 years Swann and Panesar both learnt their trade on spin-friendly pitches at Northamptonshire. Last season Northants were docked points for a spinning pitch. We need to decide on what our prioities are. A successful test side normally means an increase in county attendances. Come on ECB sort it out!
I read an interview with a spinner, can't remember who or where (possibly here!) that said that the season starts early on green wickets so spinners don't bowl much, then the middle of the season is primarily one-dayers, so again they don't get the overs in, and by the end of the season they're all undercooked.
Worth mentioning that Pietersen has scored brilliant back to back centuries in the South African T20 competition?
T20 All Stars (really, Old Stars) playing today at Citi Field in NYC
SRT Blasters 140/8 v Warne’s Warr141/4 (17.2/20 ov) Warne’s Warr won by 6 wickets (with 16 balls remaining)
Quote from: UK Redsox on November 07, 2015, 07:47:07 PMT20 All Stars (really, Old Stars) playing today at Citi Field in NYC They were banging on about it at length on TMS. Vaughan was concerned that it might be a bit chilly in Noo Yoik and they would have to wear bronx hats and suchlike. Anyway:QuoteSRT Blasters 140/8 v Warne’s Warr141/4 (17.2/20 ov) Warne’s Warr won by 6 wickets (with 16 balls remaining)
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