Is celebrating an away goal among home fans ever acceptable?

[Witton Warrior]

Maybe there could be an area reserved for a neutral area, but currently there isn't. Tough cheese

Like Fulham have. It always struck me as a bit naff, having a "neutral" section.

Most sports, and even football grounds below Division Four, can manage to have an entire "neutral" ground.

Interestingly Stourbridge had to introduce segregated standing and refreshments for the visit of.... FC United of Manchester

Buggered up the quoty box! Hope that's fixed it?

[Witton Warrior]

The bloke jumping up would have been wrong, inflammatory and difficult to defend, but two young lads?

That's what I don't get, chucking two kids out of the Family stand, having said that I sit in there with my son and i've been quite surprised by how worked up some blokes (and it's always blokes) get even when they have young children with them.

Didn't the bloke say it was a woman that complained?

[PeterWithesShin]

So these kids that are "inbetween Villa and manure".......

Laurie said he had previously taken his sons to watch United play at West Bromwich Albion without incident.

[ClaretAndBlueBlood]

personally I don't have a problem with people sitting wherever they want without any segregagation. Shouldn't we be able to act in an adult manner and just enjoy the banter.

Unfortunately, there are too many twonks around for this to happen.

I had my man ure mate sat next to me on Saturday and I always sit in their end at OT

[Ads]

Did he jump up like he was in the away end and celebrated when they scored?

[Clampy]

Did he jump up like he was in the away end and celebrated when they scored?

He said he hugged his kids when they scored and I think that's where the problem was. If he'd just let the two little un's cheer, the people sat around him might have not took too much notice. The fact that he got up and joined in as well is probably what got a few backs up and to be honest, he should have known better.

[tomd2103]

Does it say "Villa fans only in home areas" or something similar on the tickets still?

It says on the back of the tickets that they're only for home fans and away fans will be ejected. It also says on the web site that you're only buying tickets for home fans.

There is a whole other debate about whether we should be able to sit next to opposition fans etc etc, and in an ideal world where so many people weren't fucking idiots, we would be able to, but as it stands, it is really made pretty clear that you sign up to the rules when you buy the ticket.

Agree with this.  Fans in other sports seem to be able to tolerate sitting next to opposition supporters and even enjoy it in some cases, but for some reason it just doesn't seem to happen at most football grounds.  It shouldn't happen, but unfortunately that's the world we live in and most people are aware of it. 

As well as on the ticket and the website, I would also add it says 'home supporters only' on the turnstiles.  I think the stewards were perfectly within their rights to ask the family to leave as it could have escalated.  A stray word to his or someone else's wife or kids and there could have been trouble. 

Just out of interest, which stand is he referring to when he says family stand?  Trinity Road?  North Stand? 

[Dave Cooper please]

Interestingly Stourbridge had to introduce segregated standing and refreshments for the visit of.... FC United of Manchester

Someone who knows Stourbridge better than me will correct me if I'm wrong but I think this had more to do with the way Stour's ground is set out than a risk of trouble, you can't get a huge amount of fans in the clubhouse for a start so the cricket club opened up their pavilion bar and if you have ever been to their ground you will know that the walkway at the back of the main stand isn't ideal if something like 1000 fans are all trying to change ends at half-time.

[john2710]

Whether the Father or kids jumped up, stood on their heads or whatever, the simple fact is that they should not have been there. Tickets are sold on the basis that they are for home supporters only. Once they'd made themselves known to everyone & the stewards were asked to step in, they had little alternative other than to move them out for their own safety. It is sad fact that some footIball supporters turn violent when 'offended' by opposing supporters celebrating.

If they were going to risk it, then they should have the common sense to keep quiet.

[Legion]

Does it say "Villa fans only in home areas" or something similar on the tickets still?

It says on the back of the tickets that they're only for home fans and away fans will be ejected. It also says on the web site that you're only buying tickets for home fans.

There is a whole other debate about whether we should be able to sit next to opposition fans etc etc, and in an ideal world where so many people weren't fucking idiots, we would be able to, but as it stands, it is really made pretty clear that you sign up to the rules when you buy the ticket.

Agree with this.  Fans in other sports seem to be able to tolerate sitting next to opposition supporters and even enjoy it in some cases, but for some reason it just doesn't seem to happen at most football grounds.  It shouldn't happen, but unfortunately that's the world we live in and most people are aware of it. 

As well as on the ticket and the website, I would also add it says 'home supporters only' on the turnstiles.  I think the stewards were perfectly within their rights to ask the family to leave as it could have escalated.  A stray word to his or someone else's wife or kids and there could have been trouble. 

Just out of interest, which stand is he referring to when he says family stand?  Trinity Road?  North Stand? 

Trinity Road.

[tomd2103]

Does it say "Villa fans only in home areas" or something similar on the tickets still?

It says on the back of the tickets that they're only for home fans and away fans will be ejected. It also says on the web site that you're only buying tickets for home fans.

There is a whole other debate about whether we should be able to sit next to opposition fans etc etc, and in an ideal world where so many people weren't fucking idiots, we would be able to, but as it stands, it is really made pretty clear that you sign up to the rules when you buy the ticket.

Agree with this.  Fans in other sports seem to be able to tolerate sitting next to opposition supporters and even enjoy it in some cases, but for some reason it just doesn't seem to happen at most football grounds.  It shouldn't happen, but unfortunately that's the world we live in and most people are aware of it. 

As well as on the ticket and the website, I would also add it says 'home supporters only' on the turnstiles.  I think the stewards were perfectly within their rights to ask the family to leave as it could have escalated.  A stray word to his or someone else's wife or kids and there could have been trouble. 

Just out of interest, which stand is he referring to when he says family stand?  Trinity Road?  North Stand? 

Trinity Road.

I wouldn't really consider Trinity Road as a 'family stand'.  Upper North Stand maybe.

[Legion]

There's a designated 'Family' area in the Trinity Road stand as well as one for the 'Tickets for Schools' scheme.

[dave.woodhall]

Interestingly Stourbridge had to introduce segregated standing and refreshments for the visit of.... FC United of Manchester

Someone who knows Stourbridge better than me will correct me if I'm wrong but I think this had more to do with the way Stour's ground is set out than a risk of trouble, you can't get a huge amount of fans in the clubhouse for a start so the cricket club opened up their pavilion bar and if you have ever been to their ground you will know that the walkway at the back of the main stand isn't ideal if something like 1000 fans are all trying to change ends at half-time.

That's about right. There's no segregation for Halesowen on Boxing Day and there will be extra facilities and access via the cricket ground into the Shed.

[Phil from the upper holte]

If he's so fucking disgruntled then he won't have to come back again will he?

I'm so fucking sick of these glory hunting plastic wankers!

I'd rather my son support Blues or the Albion than Man U (obviously he'll be out of the house if he does)

They just boil my piss, We've suffered years of these bellends and the HOME end signifies just that. I'm glad he was kicked out and I hope every other away fan gets kicked out as well

[Drummond]

What about the 7 and 9 year olds? Do they boil your piss too?

What if by going, they'd become Villa fans in spite of their dad?