Is celebrating an away goal among home fans ever acceptable?

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Few people have touched on the real matter at hand here - the fact that this bloke is a Man United fan from Birmingham.

Once I hear those five words in that sequence, I don't really care what happens to you.

When I hear the term Brummie Red, I think of the woodchipper in Fargo.

Hanging is too good for 'em!

[MarkM]

It's about respect

I have been in many a home section in the past and you have to have respect for your surroundings. If you want to celebrate a goal then go ahead but be prepared for what may follow. Or just keep quite and enjoy being undercover.

The 'modern' fan has no concept of respect and of the rules of the game for supporters (especially glory huntung red fuckers) so think they can sit where they like and do what they like and then moan like that fucker did when it turns out they can't

Wankers the lot of them

[curiousorange]

I've never been in this area, but I would expect it to be populated by sensible human beings, not the sort of slack jawed idiots that we see at many away games.

I was in there for a game against Bolton a few years ago. It was pissing with rain and it was a miserable game, so nobody was really enjoying it, apart from some loud-mouthed twat who had his middle-aged harpy partner with him and was surrounded by grinning idiots who obviously indulged him as a 'character'. When one bloke quite reasonably asked him to keep the f's and c's to a minimum, he got a verbal mauling so severe that he and his family got up and left.

[stuart r]

Him and his whole family deserved to be thrown out just because he uses the term "super excited".

Exactly

[nigel]

No winners here is there?

Firstly, we have this Clark W Griswold of a Dad who simply wanted to take his family out for a Christmas treat. Despite the fact that he's probably a decent husband and father, he's also a deluded, arrogant cock of a man, who believes he can ride roughshod over the club's terms and rules over away fans and clearly had no real understanding of what happens when you go into the home fans end. I would be astonished if at least one person, prior to match day, had not warned him to be careful when sitting in the wrong end. Clearly, this prick thought he knew best.

Then you have the club who knew full well that the place was going to have large pockets of away fans. You'd think they'd be a bit stricter on ticket sales, but when you can't sell out for games like Man City and Arsenal, can you really blame them for taking the money? After all, the purchaser buys the ticket at their own risk. I believe that game was booking history only, so plenty of home fans would have helped their mates out. So who is to blame for that?

Lastly, and worst of all in my book, we have these pathetic wailing banshees that go ballistic every time they spot away fans. In this case it was the family stand. I've never been in this area, but I would expect it to be populated by sensible human beings, not the sort of slack jawed idiots that we see at many away games.  The Dad was a dick, an absolute imbecile, but having a go at kids is out of order and those involved should take a bit of a look at themselves.

In any case, if you're going to take the risk, shut the fuck up.

I'm in the family stand, and believe me you get some right idiots in there.
Sunderland, last season, Craig Gardner came over to to take a throw in, but there was a bit of a delay. It was pretty quiet and this chap stands up up and yells bucket loads of abuse at him. I think he used every foul mouthed expletive going. Just as bad, the steward did nothing!!

[MoetVillan]

I have had to sit in away stands over the years as family members or friends are deluded in not following the greatest team the world has ever seen.  And its tough.  But seeing my team live remains a real pleasure for me (even the past few years).  Scoring a goal means sitting on hands and silently screaming with joy.  Conceding is pretty much the same, just pain rather than joy.  I don't jump around because im fearful of the opposition, just out of respect. 

[damon loves JT]

When you're in the home end at Arsenal you have to remember to sit in complete silence while the home side completes seventeen consecutive passes, then groan loudly when they misplace the eighteenth one.

You also have to remember to criticise the home players using their first names, and using statistics where possible, eg 'for flip's sake Aaron, your rate of pass completion is more than 22% lower than Cesc's' etc

[London Villan]

Perhaps we should leave a block of unsold tickets in the manc end and round the interlopers up and deposit them in there, tough that they lose a batch of tickets, but thems the breaks.

He might not find it so enjoyable standing up for 90 minutes, getting trampled on by his own support and singing Yanited for most of the match...

[mrastonvilla]

If only there was somewhere that United fans could go in order to support their team with other like minded fans.

[Richard E]

If only there was somewhere that United fans could go in order to support their team with other like minded fans.

Good idea -perhaps they could build a stadium in, for example, Manchester and hold matches there?

[steamer]

I posted on the post match thrad,
What is it with these twats that gives them the arrogance to imagine that they can either attempt to or jump on the pitch at V.P when they score ?
Do you see them do it at home, L/POP Arse Chelsea Newcastle or anywhere else ?
No, they think that we are a bunch softies who they beat so often that it is carnival time when they come here.
Ban them to the upper section only next year, Fuckers.

[andyh]

As if like magic, our local press join in with a typically low key headline

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/aston-villa-stewards-kick-out-8335420

[NeilH]

Few people have touched on the real matter at hand here - the fact that this bloke is a Man United fan from Birmingham.

Once I hear those five words in that sequence, I don't really care what happens to you.

Yep, that's my take on it too. I am utterly sick of these modern days gloryhunting fans, brought up on a diet of Skysports Big 4 sycophantic behaviour, who then think its ok to pop down the local ground, like its some bloody trip to the opera and then complain when proper fans get the hump over it. If you want to pick your team based on whom Skysports tell you to support, then stick to your overpriced tv subscription, your ManUtd supporters club tie and badge and phoning Talkshi** to complain relentlessly post-match.

[Gareth]

Was their allocation reduced again this year because they refuse to use the seats for what they were designed?

I've had the same United fan sat in front of me once a season for the last 5 years, he comes in, takes his photos, stands if Villa score, stays seated when United do - no problem.

'If' you choose to break the rules that the rest of us have to adhere & sit as an away fan in the home end you and only you are responsible for how you conduct yourself...and likewise you have to accept the sanction for breaking the rules.

Having purchased tickets for the game this guy is still first and foremost a parent, it is his responsibility for how the kids behave and when they jump up it was his job to tell them to sit down - from his comments he was the leading cheerleader so his arrogance / complete lack of parental responsibility put his kids in danger - rather than getting indignant he might want to reflect on how his behaviour endangers his kids.

Complete no win situation for Villa, nice to see the ever supportive local newspaper haven't jumped the bandwagon :-)

[dave.woodhall]

As if like magic, our local press join in with a typically low key headline

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/aston-villa-stewards-kick-out-8335420

With added Cuddly Albion for good measure.