Is celebrating an away goal among home fans ever acceptable?

[Legion]

This bloke with the help of this article are pushing the line of nasty football club throw out two innocent little children who just want to see their heroes... He has admitted he celebrated.
To me this isn't two children being chucked out, this is one plastic Manc being ejected for being a prat... He had two children who cannot be left in the stadium on their own.

Good point.

[pauliewalnuts]

Pathetic of the woman to have complained and for the steward to have chucked them out.  I suspect they wouldn't have had the balls to act in this manner if they'd had four big blokes to contend with rather than a mum and dad with two youngsters.

In fairness, I've been at matches against Man United where the stewards have waded in and chucked out reasonably big sized groups of blokes who looked like they'd be trouble if they wanted to.

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I am never in the wrong end giving it the big one. If I were, then somebody would be well within their rights to plant one on me.

[dave.woodhall]

I am never in the wrong end giving it the big one. If I were, then somebody would be well within their rights to plant one on me.

They wouldn't - it's called assault and it's against the law. 

[supertom]

You might get away with it at a corporate plastic casual fan, day out to watch some soccerball, ground like the Emirates but not at most proper grounds. It might work in the half and half scarf World but not at Villa park or most other grounds.

The dad should have known better. You just shouldn't put kids in a position like that. With the best will in the World, you can tell them to not celebrate when Utd score, but they're kids. They can't help themselves and why should they have to? But they should be in among the Utd fans.
No sympathy whatsoever. They should have sat with the Utd fans and I'm sure his Mrs would have been able to refrain from wildly celebrating when Benteke scored.

The dad stated the Steward told him "It might kick off." The dad seemed adamant such a notion was ridiculous but it obviously did kick off a little given someone shouted to send them out.

[Toronto Villa]

Villa's response. Seems quite sensible to me. If you as a parent are so desperate to have your kids support a club from a different part of the country then follow the rules when buying tickets at away grounds. It really isn't that difficult to understand. It's common sense that young kids are probably going to get excited during the game, so it's almost impossible to expect them to keep their emotions in check as you might as an adult. That's partly why the policy is in place.

"The segregation of Villa supporters and fans of opposing teams is necessary for the safety of all fans at Villa Park on a match day, as it is for stadiums across the country," Villa's statement read.
"The policy of the Club, and of all clubs in the Premier League, is that any away fans purchasing tickets to sit in the home area of the stadium are liable to be ejected for their own safety and the safety of the home fans around them. While ejecting any fan from the stadium during a match is a last resort, moving away fans from a home area to the away section is not always feasible and so the decision must be taken to remove those fans instead.
"During the ticket sales process it is made clear several times that any tickets purchased for home areas are for Aston Villa fans only and are purchased on that basis, and all turnstiles for home areas clearly indicate that the areas are for Villa fans only. Opposing fans buying these tickets is a breach of the terms and conditions of entry which are laid out on our website."

[Fin Feds Dad]

Can't see what the big deal is.

Dickhead Dad with two snivelling runts, knowingly sits in home end and gives it the big one when current preferred glory hunting side score - and gets ejected .

All seems in order .

Bring your kids up right or fuck off .

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I am never in the wrong end giving it the big one. If I were, then somebody would be well within their rights to plant one on me.

They wouldn't - it's called assault and it's against the law. 

I could think of plenty of grounds up and down the country where I wouldn't walk out as pretty as I walked in if I acted like "we'll do what we want" brigade. I didn't see any Villa fans being ejected on Saturday either, despite throwing punches as the plastics.

[Dominic22]

I have a couple of season tickets in the family stand, and utd is always a bit of an issue, usually with day tripping utd fans being a pain but sometimes with villa fans being a bit precious in my view especially towards the disabled fans, the stewards have always been fair that I have seen and never kicked kids out in all the years I have been there.

I was there on Saturday and did not see anything or anyone kicked out and actually said to the steward on the way out how much better this year it was than the last 3 or 4.

[pauliewalnuts]

Villa's response. Seems quite sensible to me. If you as a parent are so desperate to have your kids support a club from a different part of the country then follow the rules when buying tickets at away grounds. It really isn't that difficult to understand. It's common sense that young kids are probably going to get excited during the game, so it's almost impossible to expect them to keep their emotions in check as you might as an adult. That's partly why the policy is in place.

"The segregation of Villa supporters and fans of opposing teams is necessary for the safety of all fans at Villa Park on a match day, as it is for stadiums across the country," Villa's statement read.
"The policy of the Club, and of all clubs in the Premier League, is that any away fans purchasing tickets to sit in the home area of the stadium are liable to be ejected for their own safety and the safety of the home fans around them. While ejecting any fan from the stadium during a match is a last resort, moving away fans from a home area to the away section is not always feasible and so the decision must be taken to remove those fans instead.
"During the ticket sales process it is made clear several times that any tickets purchased for home areas are for Aston Villa fans only and are purchased on that basis, and all turnstiles for home areas clearly indicate that the areas are for Villa fans only. Opposing fans buying these tickets is a breach of the terms and conditions of entry which are laid out on our website."

Spot on.

[FiveKenMcNaughts]

His whole story is inconsistent... Kids are in Half way between their moms support of Villa and dads support of Man Utd fans..... but didn't celebrate a Villa goal.
They celebrated a Man Utd goal because they were 'excited' but they weren't excited by the quality of Benteke's....

He's clearly adding bullsh*t to add weight to his claims of unfair treatment

[ciggiesnbeer]

Has there been any response from the club?  Indeed are they obliged to answer?

If they've got any sense they should lay on the full red carpet VIP treatment for another match and get both kids supporting Villa.

You poor soft hearted bastard. These kids are already lost to society. The dad is clearly a career criminal and repeat offender. The wife although fundamentally a good woman clearly is too weak or too smacked around  to stand up to him. The children are obviously already destined for a lifetime in and out of corrective institutions.

The stewards really should have called childcare services to get them away from the obviously abusive father but in this PC world sadly they just had to stand and watch the family trudge away, the children already indoctrinated with a credo of pure evil, led to the darkness by the father himself. I daresay the stewards were bawling afterwards after seeing that. I am sure we all feel let down by a world that lets little children become so bad at such a young age.

Gut wrenching.

[dave.woodhall]

I am never in the wrong end giving it the big one. If I were, then somebody would be well within their rights to plant one on me.

They wouldn't - it's called assault and it's against the law. 

I could think of plenty of grounds up and down the country where I wouldn't walk out as pretty as I walked in if I acted like "we'll do what we want" brigade. I didn't see any Villa fans being ejected on Saturday either, despite throwing punches as the plastics.

You seem to have a very casual attitude to violence. Let's hope nothing ever happens to make you change your mind.

[Witton Warrior]

There are accepted rules of behaviour that we the fans have decided - making yourself known in the opposition areas when your team score is against the rules.

Manure fans love their reputation for breaking the rules when the "jib" etc, so this bloke either was either ignorant, stupid, arrogant or all three.

There were Utd at the back of the Holte in the first half and it was made clear that they had been sussed and they needed to go to a quieter section after we scored. If they had been there when they equalised it would not have been safe.

The law is being quoted about assault - what about potential breach of the peace by their actions?

[DeKuip]

How is that fans quite rightly aren't allowed to come into the home areas of the ground showing away colours yet half n half scarves are allowed?
If stewards started disposing of them maybe it would drive away the sellers from outside the ground. The club themselves don't sell them do they?
Either that or open a Simple Twats section just for the people that want to wear them, where they can spend all game taking photos, filming corners and walking back and forth with trays of chips. Give them a foam finger to stick up their arses too.