Other Games 2014-15

[Dave]

'If there's one year we could have done with an embarrassing early cup exit to lower league opposition this was it' said no Villa fan ever.

A case could be made for it being better overall if Villa had been drawn against Man Utd in the third round and gone out at that point.
 

Please try. This I've got to see.

I'll have a go - if we're not going to win it then it doesn't really matter in which round we get knocked out.

Personally, I'd much rather lose in a semi-final or final than in the first round of a competition because of the fun you have winning along the way. But somebody else might say that the annoyance and pain is less in an earlier defeat because the hope and expectation isn't there.

He's not saying that he would rather lose in the third round rather than the semi-final (and nor am I), but it's not impossible to see why somebody might.

[aj2k77]

The one genuine highlight of the season for me was winning the Qtr final at home, cracking atmosphere before, during and after. The cup has been a relief from the incessant shit served up in the league. Without it I'd have gone mad this time.

[Witton Warrior]

The one genuine highlight of the season for me was winning the Qtr final at home, cracking atmosphere before, during and after. The cup has been a relief from the incessant shit served up in the league. Without it I'd have gone mad this time.

With you on this - We have won more Cup than League games at home!

[pauliewalnuts]

We won't make the final then.

I see we haven't sold out yet for the semi, maybe people waiting for this result.

We will never beat Liverpool.

You are silhillvilla and I claim my £5.00.

No idea what you're on about, but can I presume you think we'll beat Liverpool? In which case, I'd like to admire your blind optimism, but find it too laughable.

What's laughable about it?

If you have to ask, your blind optimim is equally laughable. You can't honestly think we have any chance whatsoever.

Yeah of course we do. We're playing Liverpool, Not Barcelona.

Besides, having optimism is better than being a misery arse.

Picked random point to dive into this, but what a bizarre argument over nothing this seems to be.

Surely:

1. We are a pretty poor, unpredictable team, we've spent the last four years watching football and results not unlike having crushed glass rubbed into your jacksy in the "things to enjoy" stakes.

2. Even if Blackburn had beaten liverpool and thus shown themselves to be a better team than expected, almost everyone would have preferred to play Blackburn.

3. However, saying "we'll never beat Liverpool" as if it is a feat akin to the likelihood of Burton Albion beating Barcelona is absolute nonsense, given that the last time we beat them was all of six months ago, under the Guardiolan reign of Lambert, at Anfield. A place where we drew last season, and won again the season before that.

Yes, Blackburn would have been easier but Liverpool are a side we've taken 7 away points from the last 9 against in the last three seasons - seasons in which we have been every bit as dog shit as we are this season - it strikes me that if you actually tried to prove the opposite to the "we'll never beat team x" argument, you'd struggle to pick a better example than Liverpool.

Finally, we've had a succession of easy home draws, if we want to win it, we have to beat someone decent at some point.

Strikes me that in yet another season of shed loads of stuff to be miserable about, to start looking for another reason in an FA cup semi final draw is a bit excessive.

On the bright side, surely it can't be as horribly depressing as the last one was. I don't think I've ever left a Villa game as down as I was after that one. Not since 1987 anyway.

[Jimbo]

We won't make the final then.

I see we haven't sold out yet for the semi, maybe people waiting for this result.

We will never beat Liverpool.

You are silhillvilla and I claim my £5.00.

No idea what you're on about, but can I presume you think we'll beat Liverpool? In which case, I'd like to admire your blind optimism, but find it too laughable.

What's laughable about it?

If you have to ask, your blind optimim is equally laughable. You can't honestly think we have any chance whatsoever.

Yeah of course we do. We're playing Liverpool, Not Barcelona.

Besides, having optimism is better than being a misery arse.

Picked random point to dive into this, but what a bizarre argument over nothing this seems to be.

Surely:

1. We are a pretty poor, unpredictable team, we've spent the last four years watching football and results not unlike having crushed glass rubbed into your jacksy in the "things to enjoy" stakes.

2. Even if Blackburn had beaten liverpool and thus shown themselves to be a better team than expected, almost everyone would have preferred to play Blackburn.

3. However, saying "we'll never beat Liverpool" as if it is a feat akin to the likelihood of Burton Albion beating Barcelona is absolute nonsense, given that the last time we beat them was all of six months ago, under the Guardiolan reign of Lambert, at Anfield. A place where we drew last season, and won again the season before that.

Yes, Blackburn would have been easier but Liverpool are a side we've taken 7 away points from the last 9 against in the last three seasons - seasons in which we have been every bit as dog shit as we are this season - it strikes me that if you actually tried to prove the opposite to the "we'll never beat team x" argument, you'd struggle to pick a better example than Liverpool.

Finally, we've had a succession of easy home draws, if we want to win it, we have to beat someone decent at some point.

Strikes me that in yet another season of shed loads of stuff to be miserable about, to start looking for another reason in an FA cup semi final draw is a bit excessive.

On the bright side, surely it can't be as horribly depressing as the last one was. I don't think I've ever left a Villa game as down as I was after that one. Not since 1987 anyway.

In other words, fuck the fuckers.

[jcsutv]

Reminds me of watching Home with my lad. We could be the best at running away. Shit film by the way.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Picked random point to dive into this, but what a bizarre argument over nothing this seems to be.

Surely:

1. We are a pretty poor, unpredictable team, we've spent the last four years watching football and results not unlike having crushed glass rubbed into your jacksy in the "things to enjoy" stakes.

2. Even if Blackburn had beaten liverpool and thus shown themselves to be a better team than expected, almost everyone would have preferred to play Blackburn.

3. However, saying "we'll never beat Liverpool" as if it is a feat akin to the likelihood of Burton Albion beating Barcelona is absolute nonsense, given that the last time we beat them was all of six months ago, under the Guardiolan reign of Lambert, at Anfield. A place where we drew last season, and won again the season before that.

Yes, Blackburn would have been easier but Liverpool are a side we've taken 7 away points from the last 9 against in the last three seasons - seasons in which we have been every bit as dog shit as we are this season - it strikes me that if you actually tried to prove the opposite to the "we'll never beat team x" argument, you'd struggle to pick a better example than Liverpool.

Finally, we've had a succession of easy home draws, if we want to win it, we have to beat someone decent at some point.

Strikes me that in yet another season of shed loads of stuff to be miserable about, to start looking for another reason in an FA cup semi final draw is a bit excessive.

On the bright side, surely it can't be as horribly depressing as the last one was. I don't think I've ever left a Villa game as down as I was after that one. Not since 1987 anyway.

Cant find anything wrong with that. It is rare that message board arguments get solved but this is as close as it gets.

[olaftab]

Do you think they'll let me in Wembley with my 'Gerrard is a C*nt' banner?

Surly no one will have a problem with truth?

[UK Redsox]

'If there's one year we could have done with an embarrassing early cup exit to lower league opposition this was it' said no Villa fan ever.

A case could be made for it being better overall if Villa had been drawn against Man Utd in the third round and gone out at that point.
 

Please try. This I've got to see.

I'll have a go - if we're not going to win it then it doesn't really matter in which round we get knocked out.

Personally, I'd much rather lose in a semi-final or final than in the first round of a competition because of the fun you have winning along the way. But somebody else might say that the annoyance and pain is less in an earlier defeat because the hope and expectation isn't there.

He's not saying that he would rather lose in the third round rather than the semi-final (and nor am I), but it's not impossible to see why somebody might.

Wot Dave said.... that's Dave Dave not our leader Dave.

Villa still have to beat Liverpool and then (in all likelihood) Arsenal to win the Cup. The chances of this happening are not great.

I'm not saying that I'd prefer have have been knocked out, I'm saying that I can understand why, due to the more important relegation battle, some people might have preferred a no-fuss third round exit to a top six club.

[dave.woodhall]

'If there's one year we could have done with an embarrassing early cup exit to lower league opposition this was it' said no Villa fan ever.

A case could be made for it being better overall if Villa had been drawn against Man Utd in the third round and gone out at that point.
 

Please try. This I've got to see.

I'll have a go - if we're not going to win it then it doesn't really matter in which round we get knocked out.

Personally, I'd much rather lose in a semi-final or final than in the first round of a competition because of the fun you have winning along the way. But somebody else might say that the annoyance and pain is less in an earlier defeat because the hope and expectation isn't there.

He's not saying that he would rather lose in the third round rather than the semi-final (and nor am I), but it's not impossible to see why somebody might.

Wot Dave said.... that's Dave Dave not our leader Dave.

Villa still have to beat Liverpool and then (in all likelihood) Arsenal to win the Cup. The chances of this happening are not great.

I'm not saying that I'd prefer have have been knocked out, I'm saying that I can understand why, due to the more important relegation battle, some people might have preferred a no-fuss third round exit to a top six club.

Then we may as well not have  bothered with most of our league games. We were going to lose them anyway.

[OzVilla]

I want to see us win games. Winning games breeds confidence after all winning is a habit like losing can become one.

Winning 4 games and losing the 5th is better for team and supporter morale than losing another game in January.  The Albion cup game was the seasons highlight so far.  Without those games whats the point.

   If we don't believe that then we may as well just pack up and do something else.

[supertom]

'If there's one year we could have done with an embarrassing early cup exit to lower league opposition this was it' said no Villa fan ever.

A case could be made for it being better overall if Villa had been drawn against Man Utd in the third round and gone out at that point.
 

Please try. This I've got to see.

I'll have a go - if we're not going to win it then it doesn't really matter in which round we get knocked out.

Personally, I'd much rather lose in a semi-final or final than in the first round of a competition because of the fun you have winning along the way. But somebody else might say that the annoyance and pain is less in an earlier defeat because the hope and expectation isn't there.

He's not saying that he would rather lose in the third round rather than the semi-final (and nor am I), but it's not impossible to see why somebody might.

Wot Dave said.... that's Dave Dave not our leader Dave.

Villa still have to beat Liverpool and then (in all likelihood) Arsenal to win the Cup. The chances of this happening are not great.

I'm not saying that I'd prefer have have been knocked out, I'm saying that I can understand why, due to the more important relegation battle, some people might have preferred a no-fuss third round exit to a top six club.

Then we may as well not have  bothered with most of our league games. We were going to lose them anyway.

I wouldn't mind us skipping the indignity of playing Utd most seasons. We'll let them have the 6 points under the proviso that the GD is only -2.

[supertom]

I want to see us win games. Winning games breeds confidence after all winning is a habit like losing can become one.

Winning 4 games and losing the 5th is better for team and supporter morale than losing another game in January.  The Albion cup game was the seasons highlight so far.  Without those games whats the point.

   If we don't believe that then we may as well just pack up and do something else.

Scoring those goals in the cup has also helped give the side a little more attacking confidence too.

[john e]

Wigan won the cup and went down,
 who's to say they wouldnt have gone down anyway,
 its not the champs league or a long run with home and away trips in the Europa league, its a one off cup match normaly played on a weekend, if you keep winning them all it can do is create confidence, there is no downside for me

[Risso]

Wigan won the cup and went down,
 who's to say they wouldnt have gone down anyway,
 its not the champs league or a long run with home and away trips in the Europa league, its a one off cup match normaly played on a weekend, if you keep winning them all it can do is create confidence, there is no downside for me

Spot on John.  Wigan would have gone down that season if they had won the cup or not.  If we go down, it'll have far more to do with not scoring under Lambert for dozens of games than it will because of our FA Cup run.  Most of the damage was done before the cup even started anyway.