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[supertom]

If we get Bertrand for around 5 mill he'd be a good signing. Even if he's average, it's the sort of signing we need more of. Average may well be our limit in terms of budget right now, and in terms of players we could attract (even in the event of a takeover). Get him in if possible.

I also think he's a player who could improve further if we get a manager in who can get us playing football. As others have said, most of us want a change in approach. Moyes for example would make us tough, well organised but would be similar to O Neill again. Southampton don't have a squad full of worldies by any means, or Swansea, but they play good football. I think we've got some players here who could adapt to a different approach, so I'd like to see it happen.  I can take mid-table obscurity as long as we can play with a bit of quality.

Bertrand is a decent player who has improved us. If we actually showed better movement and passing we'd see more from an attacking fullback like him. The trouble is our ball retention is wretched so Bertrand and Bacuna can't get forward as much as we'd like because by the time the get to the half way line the ball is inevitably lost. Bertrand is a modern fullback, defensively he's not fantastic, neither is Bacuna, but it our midfield and attack showed better control, passing and movement, we could get two pacy fullbacks, with solid delivery and ability, into the games more.

[PeterWithesShin]

I wouldn't want to pay much over £5m for him, as i'm not fully convinced he's worth it. Mooching on Google, it seems he is paid about 35K a week, which should be doable. He may even take a slight drop if it means playing every week.

[curiousorange]

Right now, I'd settle for a team of players who a) aren't terrified of the ball, and b) are capable of passing a ball to a teammate that's more than three feet away.

[PeterWithesShin]

Right now, I'd settle for a team of players who a) aren't terrified of the ball, and b) are capable of passing a ball to a teammate that's more than three feet away.

Don't want much do you!

[citizenDJ]

after all, he performed well enough for Chelsea!

How often ? He barely started games for them from memory

Well, according to Wiki he's made 28 league appearances for Chelsea (although I don't know how many of those are as substitute). He also, of course, played the in the Champion's League final, which suggests he's alright.

[PeterWithesShin]

21 starts, 7 sub. FAC 6/3 LC 8/1 Other 7/4

[citizenDJ]

Cheers for that, PWS. I think that is enough to show that he's capable, albeit alongside some very goo deployers indeed; you don't generally get that many games if you're not up to scratch.

I think he's a good player with a lot of promise, and realistically I'd say about the best we could get for that position (I'm far from convinced on Luna, although you never know….). He would be a good signing, in my opinion.

[PeterWithesShin]

He's also racked up 100+ league starts when out on loan at various clubs. Just to clarify, the numbers I posted above are only his chavski stats.

[Toronto Villa]

Bertrand has suffered the same dip in confidence that everyone else has in the side. He's a very good LB who will only get better.

[brontebilly]

Currently I'd have more confidence in Bennett at left back than i do in Bacuna or Lowton at right back, so I'd prioritise a new right back over a new left back.

thats like saying you would prefer Serena Williams over Venus Williams!!

[Dribbler]

I've got to say I would like a really inspirational manager to come in to Villa that can sprinkle some magic dust around the place and have us playing magical 'progressive' football with a wave of his wand.

Moyes doesn't exactly inspire, his solid but slightly dour record at Everton doesn't help, especially considering the hoofball tactics he employed there and massive amounts of money he spent which didn't even realise him any top table finishes, and his failure and sacking at Man Utd compounds this. So no to Moyes for me.

...or wait a minute, is this the same Moyes that over 10 years has finished in all but 2 seasons above us, with an average net spend of just over £800,00 a year over the last 10 years compared to our average of £10.8 million? Is this the same Moyes whose Everton teams seemed to play dynamic attacking and passing football every time they played Villa, and that I often commented I wish we could play in a similar style, rather than the dour football we played under MoN, TSM or TOSM? Nah still don't want him.

At the end of the day, a club in our position would be fools not to try and snap up a manager of his calibre and experience, and speaking frankly, anyone trying to equate Lambert as being as good as Moyes is off their rocker.

[olaftab]

So they are talking to van Gaal. His ambition is to do Premier League before he retires. I hope he comes and takes his time in wasting the first season whilst the players understand what he is on about and  they finish 8th again and he leaves in a fit of anger after getting stick from Countrywide reds and the "class of 92"!

[olaftab]

Currently I'd have more confidence in Bennett at left back than i do in Bacuna or Lowton at right back, so I'd prioritise a new right back over a new left back.

Yes that is  normal. Players get better by not playing...in supporters minds.

[Villa in Denmark]

So they are talking to van Gaal. His ambition is to do Premier League before he retires. I hope he comes and takes his time in wasting the first season whilst the players understand what he is on about and  they finish 8th again and he leaves in a fit of anger after getting stick from Countrywide reds and the "class of 92"!

Apparently Fergie has come out and said he thinks that Giggs should get the job permanently because "he knows what it takes to be a Utd player."

Maybe he gets 10% of the inevitable severance pay after 12 months for every recommendation he makes that gets the job.

Robson, McLeish, Moyes, now Giggs...

[Deano's Mullet]

Collymore apparently has had a phone call from a credible friend saying Moyes would be very interested in AVFC.....