Culverhouse and Karsa suspended (Now both sacked: Reply #876)

[supertom]

Sacked

Brendan McLoughlin ‏@bren_mcloughlin  1m
Ian Culverhouse dismissed by #avfc and follows Gary Karsa out of the exit door. Paul Lambert now stepping up search for new backroom staff

I'd be a bit nervous if Lambert employed 2 new assistants.

What could possibly go wrong?

It's an improvement to be fair. At least "to me, to you" implies passing the ball. That's a good start right from the off.

[kippaxvilla2]

Of course when I do an ITK it is ignored.  I told you Karsa had been sacked three days ago.

[silhillvilla]

Do we know why they were sacked yet ?

[Des Little]

Do we know why they were sacked yet ?

Yes. One was a wanker and the other one was a twat.

[Tokyo Sexwhale]

Could always get Gary Macca in. He's got the best win percentage of any Villa manager since Noah was a lad.

Jim Barron has a 100% record as Villa manager too.

[mr underhill]

the recruitment of new coaching staff will be interesting; who would want to come under the present circumstances and if anyone does come in, wouldn't they potentially be just two more employees to pay off if a new owner's new manager doesn't rate them? Don't suppose Randy cares. If Lambert sticks with the 2 s's maybe a sign that a take-over is close?

[Richard E]

Compromise Agreements have been replaced by Settlement Agreements -  http://careers.theguardian.com/settlement-agreements-employees-need-to-know

I don't think there's anything particularly unusual about any organisation using them; sometimes you have to weigh up the angst of dismissing someone, a possible ET etc against the convenience of getting rid of someone quickly in a relatively pain free.

If it's misconduct why the need for any settlement baring in mind they've only been with the club less than 2 years?  I know football works differently but if they've behaved in a way that got them suspended and after inquest resulted in sacking why would the club need to compromise with I assume some sort of pay off?

If they're on fixed term contracts they could still have hefty breach of contract claims for the balance of their notice if a Court didn't think gross misconduct was proved, so there would be some benefit to the club in buying off that potential risk. It also potentially assists in terms of upholding confidentiality and any restrictive covenants.

[citizenDJ]

Sacked

Brendan McLoughlin ‏@bren_mcloughlin  1m
Ian Culverhouse dismissed by #avfc and follows Gary Karsa out of the exit door. Paul Lambert now stepping up search for new backroom staff

I'd be a bit nervous if Lambert employed 2 new assistants.

What could possibly go wrong?

It could work. The literal translation of 'tiki taka' is 'to me, to you'.

[adrenachrome]

Compromise Agreements have been replaced by Settlement Agreements -  http://careers.theguardian.com/settlement-agreements-employees-need-to-know

I don't think there's anything particularly unusual about any organisation using them; sometimes you have to weigh up the angst of dismissing someone, a possible ET etc against the convenience of getting rid of someone quickly in a relatively pain free.

If it's misconduct why the need for any settlement baring in mind they've only been with the club less than 2 years?  I know football works differently but if they've behaved in a way that got them suspended and after inquest resulted in sacking why would the club need to compromise with I assume some sort of pay off?

If they're on fixed term contracts they could still have hefty breach of contract claims for the balance of their notice if a Court didn't think gross misconduct was proved, so there would be some benefit to the club in buying off that potential risk. It also potentially assists in terms of upholding confidentiality and any restrictive covenants.

I remember a movie about restrictive covenants where the nuns went on a carnal rampage and were visited by  the inquisition who burned half of them and buried the other half in the walls of the covenant itself.  It was ghastly and quite put me off the idea of the monastic life.

Be that as it may, the upshot of all this is that we the fans will be left moldering inn the dank darkness with not a glimmer of the luminous light of the truth.

[mr underhill]

was that The Devils, the Ken Russell film? I thought it was pretty good, it almost made me want to become a monk because you could be devotional when they fancy took you and then shag a load of nuns senseless without bothering about persistent bouts of Christianity.

[adrenachrome]

Yes indeed.  That,  merged with another film called The Afwul Story of The Nuns of Monza.

Vanessa Redgrave was in The Devils as well, as the nun who kicked it all off with her delusions. Poor old Olly got burned at the stake for his trouble. Politics behind it all of course, as ever.

[mr underhill]

those were the days, before political correctness took over and turned the world into  duller shades of grey. I miss eccentrics like Ken.

[Phil from the upper holte]

He's not goin to be able to get replacements is he? We can't even retain players

[Steve kirk]

I dont claim for one minute to be in the know but a mate of mine at work knows an ex football man who knows Gordon Cowans who gave him this info, Gordon said Culverhouse made the tackle in training that caused Benteke's long term injury, Gordon then had a go at Culverhouse about it who got very aggressive, Gabby and Fabian got involved against Culverhouse which led to Karsa diving in, this led to a full on fight which eventually led to the club suspensions.

[Clampy]

The sackings are breaking news on the Sky Sports yellow bar now.