Culverhouse and Karsa suspended (Now both sacked: Reply #876)

[Dr Butler]

Rumours are that it was Lambert who wanted them gone and ordered them off the training ground. Or more likely told them to "get ta' fuck".

made me larf....UTV

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It must a bit awkward working with the borther of the girl you used to be married to.

[SamTheMouse]

Rumours are that it was Lambert who wanted them gone and ordered them off the training ground. Or more likely told them to "get ta' fuck".

There are of course also rumours that Lerner has gone over Lambert's head. I think the supplementary rumours are people of either side passing off wishful thinking as gossip.

While you are right that it is mostly conjecture and people trying to form theories with little in the way of hard facts to support them, I do think that Lambert publicly welcoming Sid and Given does not sot back up the suggestion that it was done over his head.

The "delighted" line doesn't sound very convincing. I can imagine Faulkner writing that.

[curiousorange]

I do think that Lambert was in support of the decision rather than it happening over his head though. Were it not, he'd have walked out too and started legal proceedings for constructive dismissal.

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Rumours are that it was Lambert who wanted them gone and ordered them off the training ground. Or more likely told them to "get ta' fuck".

There are of course also rumours that Lerner has gone over Lambert's head. I think the supplementary rumours are people of either side passing off wishful thinking as gossip.

While you are right that it is mostly conjecture and people trying to form theories with little in the way of hard facts to support them, I do think that Lambert publicly welcoming Sid and Given does not sot back up the suggestion that it was done over his head.

The "delighted" line doesn't sound very convincing. I can imagine Faulkner writing that.

Maybe, although I doubt Lambert would let comments be attributed to him he did not make.

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Collymore on TS now

[Chris Smith]

I am not so sure about Sid, I really want him to succeed but on the other hand I would not want his reputation to be tarnished if things do not work out.

Know what you mean but for a handful of games I think that is unlikely to happen.

[Chris Smith]

Rumours are that it was Lambert who wanted them gone and ordered them off the training ground. Or more likely told them to "get ta' fuck".

There are of course also rumours that Lerner has gone over Lambert's head. I think the supplementary rumours are people of either side passing off wishful thinking as gossip.

While you are right that it is mostly conjecture and people trying to form theories with little in the way of hard facts to support them, I do think that Lambert publicly welcoming Sid and Given does not sot back up the suggestion that it was done over his head.

The "delighted" line doesn't sound very convincing. I can imagine Faulkner writing that.

Maybe, although I doubt Lambert would let comments be attributed to him he did not make.

Similarly I couldn't see the club allowing it to be published if it did not reflect his position, given the potential for a MON type situation in the future.

[kippaxvilla2]

Lambert saying he was delighted with their appointment is akin to the archetypal Tory MP who has been caught with a rent boy by the Sunday Sun.  Then appearing at the front farmgate of his multi million pound Kent mansion holding hands with his wife and commending her on her strength of fortitude and how they are both delighted to be staying together and working on rebuildng their trust for each other and how she has forgiven his 'error of judgment'.

[villasjf]

Rumours are that it was Lambert who wanted them gone and ordered them off the training ground. Or more likely told them to "get ta' fuck".

There are of course also rumours that Lerner has gone over Lambert's head. I think the supplementary rumours are people of either side passing off wishful thinking as gossip.

While you are right that it is mostly conjecture and people trying to form theories with little in the way of hard facts to support them, I do think that Lambert publicly welcoming Sid and Given does not sot back up the suggestion that it was done over his head.

The "delighted" line doesn't sound very convincing. I can imagine Faulkner writing that.

Maybe, although I doubt Lambert would let comments be attributed to him he did not make.

Yes he would mumble We Go Again

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Collymore on TS now

What's he saying? Can't listen because their stream is absolute pony and won't work.

[Damo70]

Pete Colley from the training ground on SSN reckons the players are happy with the changes along with (unsurprisingly) Cowans and Given but also Lambert. This does appear to have Lambert's full support and it seems one of the few certainties in all of this is that it has the players support.

[IAmTheOneIanOlney]

I get the thing with Culverhouse - from the rumours, he may have previous for being a hothead - but Karsa as well? Just because they're both coaches, they're not joined at the hip. You will most likely find that the relationship between them and Lambert has broken down to the extent that it's irreparable. I would assume the players have not been keen on their coaching methods for some time, hence the chronic drop-off in form, but it has taken the previous four results for Lambert to make his mind up that they're not doing enough. I would say there has been a point at which Lambert and his coaches have disagreed so much that he has forced their hand to either support him or undermine him, and they could no longer pledge their support.

Would that lead to a suspension, though? That suggests punishment for wrongdoing, not just a difference of opinion.

[Monty]

Rumours are that it was Lambert who wanted them gone and ordered them off the training ground. Or more likely told them to "get ta' fuck".

There are of course also rumours that Lerner has gone over Lambert's head. I think the supplementary rumours are people of either side passing off wishful thinking as gossip.

While you are right that it is mostly conjecture and people trying to form theories with little in the way of hard facts to support them, I do think that Lambert publicly welcoming Sid and Given does not sot back up the suggestion that it was done over his head.

The "delighted" line doesn't sound very convincing. I can imagine Faulkner writing that.

Maybe, although I doubt Lambert would let comments be attributed to him he did not make.

Similarly I couldn't see the club allowing it to be published if it did not reflect his position, given the potential for a MON type situation in the future.

True, but it could be enforced by Lerner and agreed to by Lambert, rather than a decision taken solely by Lambert. Then of course Lambert would release a statement saying that he was delighted - what else would he say?

It does seem very odd for Lambert to turn on the staff who've been almost extensions of himself since Colchester.

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Collymore on TS now

What's he saying? Can't listen because their stream is absolute pony and won't work.

Nothing much really, reckons we will just scrape through this season.