Manchester Utd vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[tomd2103]

We lost 4-1 to the worst man utd side for years and there are people on here who think we played quite well and were unlucky .I never cease to be amazed by some people

Similarly I never cease to be amazed by people embracing the negative. This isn't a pop at you or anybody else - just an observation that with so many people watching the game there's going to be different point of views. As is often pointed out, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle of the extreme pessimists and extreme optimists.

The truth always has been in between both views. I think there is now a lot of anti Lambert, and a few of us still willing to give him a bit more time, not blaming him for everything. Unfortunately there are few, if any pro-Lambert supporters because he hasn't earned it. The body of his work doesn't support outright support which is a massive shame considering so many of us were delighted to see him join the club. In fact, I'd guess even those who have the longest patience might even privately want this to end so they no longer have to defend him. It's all a bit exhausting.

We lost 4-1 to the worst man utd side for years and there are people on here who think we played quite well and were unlucky .I never cease to be amazed by some people

Similarly I never cease to be amazed by people embracing the negative. This isn't a pop at you or anybody else - just an observation that with so many people watching the game there's going to be different point of views. As is often pointed out, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle of the extreme pessimists and extreme optimists.

The truth always has been in between both views. I think there is now a lot of anti Lambert, and a few of us still willing to give him a bit more time, not blaming him for everything. Unfortunately there are few, if any pro-Lambert supporters because he hasn't earned it. The body of his work doesn't support outright support which is a massive shame considering so many of us were delighted to see him join the club. In fact, I'd guess even those who have the longest patience might even privately want this to end so they no longer have to defend him. It's all a bit exhausting.

Sums it up well.

[olaftab]

Bacuna should never play in defence again for us. At fault for their first two goals due to the fact that he is not a defender.

[rob_bridge]

A common cheap shot by football pundits is to say "what is the point of Aston Villa?".  It used to get my goat, but really, what is the point of us being in the Prem?  What are we doing?  Apart from guaranteeing ManUre 6 points a season.

History shows that any club that flirts with the bottom three as often as we have in the last few seasons, eventually goes down.  Even if Randy splashes the cash, we've replaced too many good/competent players with downright shite it'd take more money than he's got to make us challenge for anything worth getting excited about.  Other clubs may be hapy with just surviving the prem, but we're cursed by our history.

This.

A certain Mr Moyes turned a similar club from that position into Top 6 regulars.

[robbo1874]

I thought it was 4-1? That's pretty bad, whichever way you choose to look at it.

yep 4-1 is bad - I don't think we played 4-1 bad  though, we were unlucky and played some decent football today. I started watching in the 2nd half just before benteke's missed sitter and until their 3rd went in I thought we were on top. Even for a spell after that I thought we were a chance to get something.

Painful as it was, it just wasn't our day today. With our side, we'll have days like today until we can get a bit more quality in.

[supertom]

I thought it was 4-1? That's pretty bad, whichever way you choose to look at it.

yep 4-1 is bad - I don't think we played 4-1 bad  though, we were unlucky and played some decent football today. I started watching in the 2nd half just before benteke's missed sitter and until their 3rd went in I thought we were on top. Even for a spell after that I thought we were a chance to get something.

Painful as it was, it just wasn't our day today. With our side, we'll have days like today until we can get a bit more quality in.

I dunno. If you make it as easy as we did for Rooney, you probably deserve everything you get. We gifted him two easy goals and Mata's was really soft too.

[robbo1874]

Also talk of giving these guys bumper new deals is just ridiculous also - what have they done to earn them.  It might sound silly but I have just watched a programme about World War II when Churchill decided to sink the French Naval ship in Algeria.  The French naval officer who had to swim for his life through boiling hot oil had me nearly in tears, then I watch a load of not very good football players running around a pitch in sunshine for an hour and a half and picking up £30k no matter what the outcome and it puts everything in perspective.  Fcukin shite.

so the French naval officer would've scored a hatrick at old Trafford to win the game? I know what you're saying and agree to an extent, but its a false comparison really.

[villan from luton]

Manure were poor and yet scored 4 goals, that shows it all about us. I like Bacuna, but he is now getting ezposed at right back,  my big worry is he has the most brittle confidence as well.

[Matt C]

Cole, Forlan, Macheda & Mata. Struggling for a goal? We'll help you out.

[kippaxvilla2]

Also talk of giving these guys bumper new deals is just ridiculous also - what have they done to earn them.  It might sound silly but I have just watched a programme about World War II when Churchill decided to sink the French Naval ship in Algeria.  The French naval officer who had to swim for his life through boiling hot oil had me nearly in tears, then I watch a load of not very good football players running around a pitch in sunshine for an hour and a half and picking up £30k no matter what the outcome and it puts everything in perspective.  Fcukin shite.

so the French naval officer would've scored a hatrick at old Trafford to win the game? I know what you're saying and agree to an extent, but its a false comparison really.

I am saying the French Naval Officer is worth £30k a day for trying to save a generation of people from succumbing to a Nazi dictatorship.  But I am fairly sure he would have played better than Bacuna did today into the bargain.

[robbo1874]

Also talk of giving these guys bumper new deals is just ridiculous also - what have they done to earn them.  It might sound silly but I have just watched a programme about World War II when Churchill decided to sink the French Naval ship in Algeria.  The French naval officer who had to swim for his life through boiling hot oil had me nearly in tears, then I watch a load of not very good football players running around a pitch in sunshine for an hour and a half and picking up £30k no matter what the outcome and it puts everything in perspective.  Fcukin shite.

so the French naval officer would've scored a hatrick at old Trafford to win the game? I know what you're saying and agree to an extent, but its a false comparison really.

I am saying the French Naval Officer is worth £30k a day for trying to save a generation of people from succumbing to a Nazi dictatorship.  But I am fairly sure he would have played better than Bacuna did today into the bargain.

just realised, even if he scored a hatrick it would've only been enough for a draw, unless the bosun was playing too and got a late 96th minute winner!

[rob_bridge]

Cole, Forlan, Macheda & Mata. Struggling for a goal? We'll help you out.

You forgot Hernandez

[AVH87]

I expected to lose, but to go down 4-1 hurts.

First half we matched them at worst, no way we should have gone in trailing at the break. Very rash from Bacuna, they only had 2 shots on target the whole 45 mins.

Benteke should have made it 2-2, I'm still furious he's missed! Give us some hope FFS. Once it went to 3-1 it was obvious it was game over. We don't have the creativity or energy to break teams down.

Our away support was different class today. My personal favourites were 'you'll soon be City fans!' and 'fuck off back to London' closely followed by 'See you, on the motorway!!'

[Smirker]

We need more songs getting behind the Villa.

[mr underhill]

we need a team to get behind first

[olaftab]

So by that logic stop singing unless you support a top 5/6 team?