Nathan Baker - Sold

[PeterWithesShin]

Like when Gabby scored 3 league goals when we still had Downing and Young? No one has forgotten his past contributions, but that's 6 or 7 years ago now. It seems a tad bizarre to have given Baker stick for his role in our relegation even though he was out on loan, and giving Gabby a pass despite him being too fat and unprofessional to be on the pitch half the time.

[saunders_heroes]

I know he's scored over 80 goals for the club if that helps?
And yes I do remember how much you backed Lerner and his cronies while the club was being humiliated left right and centre. You were quite wrong weren't you?

[saunders_heroes]

Like when Gabby scored 3 league goals when we still had Downing and Young? No one has forgotten his past contributions, but that's 6 or 7 years ago now. It seems a tad bizarre to have given Baker stick for his role in our relegation even though he was out on loan, and giving Gabby a pass despite him being too fat and unprofessional to be on the pitch half the time.

Haven't they? I don't see many references to his 80+ goals on here, only that he's a fat waste of space etc. It's tiresome really.

[old man villa fan]

Gabby actually had a decent season in 12/13 so going 5 years back makes his record look less pathetic.  in the last 4 seasons he's played 109 games and scored 12 goals so just about 1 in 9.  In that time he also rendered himself incapable of playing by becoming frighteningly over weight for someone employed as a professional athlete and that really should've been grounds for us to just cancel his contract.

Baker was poor but he never took the piss like that.

Well said.  If the Club understood the feelings of many longstanding fans, he would have been out of the door the day the new owner walked in.

[Chris Jameson]

And yes I do remember how much you backed Lerner and his cronies while the club was being humiliated left right and centre. You were quite wrong weren't you?

That's quite tiresome bringing that up to be honest. I think Agbonlahor is a fat waste of space. You're welcome.

[PeterWithesShin]

That's because he's spent most of the last 5 years being fat and shit. I don't see you saying much about the early positives under Lerner, only the latter parts as that's the most recent. People tend to focus on the most recent.

[saunders_heroes]

That's because he's spent most of the last 5 years being fat and shit. I don't see you saying much about the early positives under Lerner, only the latter parts as that's the most recent. People tend to focus on the most recent.

The whole club has been a joke since 2010, Gabby included. His performances since he returned to the first team have been decent though and I think he deserves another chance especially considering what he's contributed to the club as a whole. I don't see why that is such a controversial attitude.

[saunders_heroes]

And yes I do remember how much you backed Lerner and his cronies while the club was being humiliated left right and centre. You were quite wrong weren't you?

That's quite tiresome bringing that up to be honest. I think Agbonlahor is a fat waste of space. You're welcome.

Well if the truth touches a nerve and all that. You're welcome!

[Malandro]

He's crap though.

[PeterWithesShin]

That's because he's spent most of the last 5 years being fat and shit. I don't see you saying much about the early positives under Lerner, only the latter parts as that's the most recent. People tend to focus on the most recent.

The whole club has been a joke since 2010, Gabby included. His performances since he returned to the first team have been decent though and I think he deserves another chance especially considering what he's contributed to the club as a whole. I don't see why that is such a controversial attitude.

They have been and i've said so. His early years were good as well. Doesn't alter that for years he had an appalling and unprofessional attitude, which has contributed to where we are now.
In fact i'd say Gabby mirrors Lerner, looked good early on and gave us hope for a 'bright future' but turned into a disinterested twunt that fecked our club up.

[saunders_heroes]

That's because he's spent most of the last 5 years being fat and shit. I don't see you saying much about the early positives under Lerner, only the latter parts as that's the most recent. People tend to focus on the most recent.

The whole club has been a joke since 2010, Gabby included. His performances since he returned to the first team have been decent though and I think he deserves another chance especially considering what he's contributed to the club as a whole. I don't see why that is such a controversial attitude.

They have been and i've said so. His early years were good as well. Doesn't alter that for years he had an appalling and unprofessional attitude, which has contributed to where we are now.
In fact i'd say Gabby mirrors Lerner, looked good early on and gave us hope for a 'bright future' but turned into a disinterested twunt that fecked our club up.

His attitude isn't shit now and hasn't been for a while now. A lot of fans refuse to see this though.

[paul_e]

That's because he's spent most of the last 5 years being fat and shit. I don't see you saying much about the early positives under Lerner, only the latter parts as that's the most recent. People tend to focus on the most recent.

The whole club has been a joke since 2010, Gabby included. His performances since he returned to the first team have been decent though and I think he deserves another chance especially considering what he's contributed to the club as a whole. I don't see why that is such a controversial attitude.

They have been and i've said so. His early years were good as well. Doesn't alter that for years he had an appalling and unprofessional attitude, which has contributed to where we are now.
In fact i'd say Gabby mirrors Lerner, looked good early on and gave us hope for a 'bright future' but turned into a disinterested twunt that fecked our club up.

His attitude isn't shit now and hasn't been for a while now. A lot of fans refuse to see this though.

Putting in the effort to be capable of playing (as he's contracted to do) after he got himself into a truly disgraceful state is the absolute minimum.  If he starts scoring regularly (he should be capable of 15-20 in this league) then, and only then, will he deserve credit for turning himself around.

[saunders_heroes]

That's because he's spent most of the last 5 years being fat and shit. I don't see you saying much about the early positives under Lerner, only the latter parts as that's the most recent. People tend to focus on the most recent.

The whole club has been a joke since 2010, Gabby included. His performances since he returned to the first team have been decent though and I think he deserves another chance especially considering what he's contributed to the club as a whole. I don't see why that is such a controversial attitude.

They have been and i've said so. His early years were good as well. Doesn't alter that for years he had an appalling and unprofessional attitude, which has contributed to where we are now.
In fact i'd say Gabby mirrors Lerner, looked good early on and gave us hope for a 'bright future' but turned into a disinterested twunt that fecked our club up.

His attitude isn't shit now and hasn't been for a while now. A lot of fans refuse to see this though.

Putting in the effort to be capable of playing (as he's contracted to do) after he got himself into a truly disgraceful state is the absolute minimum.  If he starts scoring regularly (he should be capable of 15-20 in this league) then, and only then, will he deserve credit for turning himself around.

That's fair enough.

[PeterWithesShin]

As Paul says, it should be the bare minimum for a professional footballer to try their best and not be fat and unfit. And I don't think a dozen competitive games is for a while now. It's a start though.

[saunders_heroes]

As Paul says, it should be the bare minimum for a professional footballer to try their best and not be fat and unfit. And I don't think a dozen competitive games is for a while now. It's a start though.

Well he hasn't been fat and unfit for quite a while now but you wouldn't know it from reading this thread and others on here. From what I've seen from him his attitude this calendar year has been first class. It's tiresome reading the same old "he's fat, lazy, wanker, twat" ad nausum when it's clear his attitude has changed.