Nathan Baker - Sold

[Clampy]

And Gabby still is. That irks a lot of people as well.

And if Baker had scored more than 80 goals for us then maybe I'd have a bit of good will towards him as well, but he hasn't.

And what kind of argument is that considering Baker is a centre half?

[saunders_heroes]

And Gabby still is. That irks a lot of people as well.

And if Baker had scored more than 80 goals for us then maybe I'd have a bit of good will towards him as well, but he hasn't.

And what kind of argument is that considering Baker is a centre half?

A perfectly reasonable argument. If Baker had contributed similar displays at the back that Gabby had contributed in attack then maybe he'd be missed a bit more, but he hasn't. In fact for the vast majority of his time here he's been a bloody car crash of a player.

[Monty]

Baker's fine, adequate, but he's not the next Cahill. If we don't get promotion next year I suspect it won't be for the lack of Baker.

[Clampy]

And Gabby still is. That irks a lot of people as well.

And if Baker had scored more than 80 goals for us then maybe I'd have a bit of good will towards him as well, but he hasn't.

And what kind of argument is that considering Baker is a centre half?

A perfectly reasonable argument. If Baker had contributed similar displays at the back that Gabby had contributed in attack then maybe he'd be missed a bit more, but he hasn't. In fact for the vast majority of his time here he's been a bloody car crash of a player.

I'll ask you again. How many goals has Gabby scored though our decline of the past 5 years?

[saunders_heroes]

And Gabby still is. That irks a lot of people as well.

And if Baker had scored more than 80 goals for us then maybe I'd have a bit of good will towards him as well, but he hasn't.

And what kind of argument is that considering Baker is a centre half?

A perfectly reasonable argument. If Baker had contributed similar displays at the back that Gabby had contributed in attack then maybe he'd be missed a bit more, but he hasn't. In fact for the vast majority of his time here he's been a bloody car crash of a player.

I'll ask you again. How many goals has Gabby scored though our decline of the past 5 years?

No idea, but I'm not surprised his goals dried up once we started to sell the players who used to supply him with crosses that he used to thrive on. Unlike others though I haven't forgotten his contribution to Villa pre Lerner's sabotage of the club.

[Clampy]

And Gabby still is. That irks a lot of people as well.

And if Baker had scored more than 80 goals for us then maybe I'd have a bit of good will towards him as well, but he hasn't.

And what kind of argument is that considering Baker is a centre half?

A perfectly reasonable argument. If Baker had contributed similar displays at the back that Gabby had contributed in attack then maybe he'd be missed a bit more, but he hasn't. In fact for the vast majority of his time here he's been a bloody car crash of a player.

I'll ask you again. How many goals has Gabby scored though our decline of the past 5 years?

No idea, but I'm not surprised his goals dried up once we started to sell the players who used to supply him with crosses that he used to thrive on. Unlike others though I haven't forgotten his contribution to Villa pre Lerner's sabotage of the club.

Just as I thought. Baker came through the Lerner era, so he was shit. Gabby didn't, so he was great. Predictable but not surprising.

[SoccerHQ]

I can't believe people are bleating over Baker leaving.

It's more insurance. Chester and Baker as a combination was pretty good last season, they gelled well and plenty of clean sheets to back it up.

I doubt Terry will manage too many midweek games this season so Baker would've been a great option to come in and take over. Assume Samba fills that role now but not sure how well his fitness will hold up once the real stuff starts.

[Monty]

I think Gabby played one or two matches before the Lerner era, though? I can't think of a single player who more symbolises that period in the club's history than him.

[paul_e]

Gabby actually had a decent season in 12/13 so going 5 years back makes his record look less pathetic.  in the last 4 seasons he's played 109 games and scored 12 goals so just about 1 in 9.  In that time he also rendered himself incapable of playing by becoming frighteningly over weight for someone employed as a professional athlete and that really should've been grounds for us to just cancel his contract.

Baker was poor but he never took the piss like that.

[saunders_heroes]

And Gabby still is. That irks a lot of people as well.

And if Baker had scored more than 80 goals for us then maybe I'd have a bit of good will towards him as well, but he hasn't.

And what kind of argument is that considering Baker is a centre half?

A perfectly reasonable argument. If Baker had contributed similar displays at the back that Gabby had contributed in attack then maybe he'd be missed a bit more, but he hasn't. In fact for the vast majority of his time here he's been a bloody car crash of a player.

I'll ask you again. How many goals has Gabby scored though our decline of the past 5 years?

No idea, but I'm not surprised his goals dried up once we started to sell the players who used to supply him with crosses that he used to thrive on. Unlike others though I haven't forgotten his contribution to Villa pre Lerner's sabotage of the club.

Just as I thought. Baker came through the Lerner era, so he was shit. Gabby didn't, so he was great. Predictable but not surprising.

No, he was a poor player because he was a poor player. The proof is in the pudding, unless you missed the last 7 humiliating years? I do remember you coming very late to the party regarding our decline though. You were right behind the "young and hungry" bullshit if I remember rightly.

[aj2k77]

I can't believe people are bleating over Baker leaving.

It's more insurance. Chester and Baker as a combination was pretty good last season, they gelled well and plenty of clean sheets to back it up.

I doubt Terry will manage too many midweek games this season so Baker would've been a great option to come in and take over. Assume Samba fills that role now but not sure how well his fitness will hold up once the real stuff starts.

Not much insurance though when your insurance needs insurance himself. When you get offered £4m notes for someone like Baker, you snap  their hands off.

We are a championship club struggling to meet FFP. We realistically can't have a £4m center back as 4th choice.

[aj2k77]

Young and hungry = Cheap, crap that no ones ever heard of.

[saunders_heroes]

I can't believe people are bleating over Baker leaving.

It's more insurance. Chester and Baker as a combination was pretty good last season, they gelled well and plenty of clean sheets to back it up.

I doubt Terry will manage too many midweek games this season so Baker would've been a great option to come in and take over. Assume Samba fills that role now but not sure how well his fitness will hold up once the real stuff starts.

Not much insurance though when your insurance needs insurance himself. When you get offered £4m notes for someone like Baker, you snap  their hands off.

We are a championship club struggling to meet FFP. We realistically can't have a £4m center back as 4th choice.

Exactly. And he was a centreback who won't be missed either.

[Clampy]

And Gabby still is. That irks a lot of people as well.

And if Baker had scored more than 80 goals for us then maybe I'd have a bit of good will towards him as well, but he hasn't.

And what kind of argument is that considering Baker is a centre half?

A perfectly reasonable argument. If Baker had contributed similar displays at the back that Gabby had contributed in attack then maybe he'd be missed a bit more, but he hasn't. In fact for the vast majority of his time here he's been a bloody car crash of a player.

I'll ask you again. How many goals has Gabby scored though our decline of the past 5 years?

No idea, but I'm not surprised his goals dried up once we started to sell the players who used to supply him with crosses that he used to thrive on. Unlike others though I haven't forgotten his contribution to Villa pre Lerner's sabotage of the club.

Just as I thought. Baker came through the Lerner era, so he was shit. Gabby didn't, so he was great. Predictable but not surprising.

No, he was a poor player because he was a poor player. The proof is in the pudding, unless you missed the last 7 humiliating years? I do remember you coming very late to the party regarding our decline though. You were right behind the "young and hungry" bullshit if I remember rightly.

You can remember me coming ' very late into the party' as you call it but you can't remember how many goals Gabby has scored in the last 7 humiliating years? Hmm.

[SoccerHQ]

Gabby actually had a decent season in 12/13 so going 5 years back makes his record look less pathetic.  in the last 4 seasons he's played 109 games and scored 12 goals so just about 1 in 9.  In that time he also rendered himself incapable of playing by becoming frighteningly over weight for someone employed as a professional athlete and that really should've been grounds for us to just cancel his contract.

Baker was poor but he never took the piss like that.

Still got a new 4 year contract in that time aswell!