Newcastle United v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Marton]

On Benteke: He seems to have lost the desire to score. One could speculate that he believes his own hype and has come to the conclusion that he is entitled to score and its just the others job to set him up, regardless if he worked himself into a position to strike or not. Or someone close to him have influenced think along these lines. Cant forget that he, like many young soccer stars, are still big children with limited life experience and perspective on their careers. As such they often deceived by agents, managers, coaches, friends, family, girlfriends and wives with ulterior motives. Not surprisingly big sport stars often declare bankruptcy or have even bigger adversities later in life. Bentekes transfer request last summer , the performances this season where he been a pale shadow of his former self and the communicational behaviour on the pitch all indicates that his self-image is distorted. The problem is rubbing off on Villas performances. He still good in the air when the ball aimed right at him (guess he can win those with minimal effort), but on the ground his touch is abysmal,  pace have dropped and I cant remember when he got past ANYONE with the ball at his feet. He looks lazy and uninterested. The only game since he returned from "rehab" in Holland where he moved throughout the game was the one played in a freezing blizzard (West Brom was it??). Guess he had to move to keep warm. There also seems to be an issue between him and Weimann. Weimann will never put in Benteke if he can help it. He rather pass another player or make finish himself. Every time it happens it seems to infuriate Benteke further yet Lambert keeps playing those two up front every time if available. Why?

[myf]

yes its all bentekes fault

[rob_bridge]

Im Cardiff and Newcastle we've played two sides who had zero confidence on the back of several bad results and yet we failed to score in either. Dreadful and lambert should go.

To be replaced by who? And please bear in mind the recruiters and their abject knwledge of football.

I have no idea, but that's not my job. What I will say is that there are not many who could get us playing worse football or worse results.

I think there are many who could do worse on both counts. Far too many who are also rated beyond their abilities.

I'd rather you choose the successor than those who will. And I am being serious compared to Lerner and Faulkner.

I am willing to listen to alternatives.

[eastie]

Im Cardiff and Newcastle we've played two sides who had zero confidence on the back of several bad results and yet we failed to score in either. Dreadful and lambert should go.

To be replaced by who? And please bear in mind the recruiters and their abject knwledge of football.

I have no idea, but that's not my job. What I will say is that there are not many who could get us playing worse football or worse results.

I think there are many who could do worse on both counts. Far too many who are also rated beyond their abilities.

I'd rather you choose the successor than those who will. And I am being serious compared to Lerner and Faulkner.

I am willing to listen to alternatives.

Ronald koeman an experienced manager at European level and has expressed a desire to manage in the premier league next season , feyenoord contract expires in June.

[rob_bridge]

Are the clowns who run our club up to the job of sacking a poor manager and employing a new one?

Like I said that's not a reason to keep Lambert though. At the end of the day you don't keep a bad manager, because you're scared of who to employ next. Whoever it is would struggle to do worse than Lambert is currently.

PWA I give you Billy McNeill. He was the worst manager in our history and bearing in mind the competition and who he succeeded that was some feat.

Faulkwit and Non Lerner couldn't pick their nose let alone another manager.

[rob_bridge]

Im Cardiff and Newcastle we've played two sides who had zero confidence on the back of several bad results and yet we failed to score in either. Dreadful and lambert should go.

To be replaced by who? And please bear in mind the recruiters and their abject knwledge of football.

I have no idea, but that's not my job. What I will say is that there are not many who could get us playing worse football or worse results.

I think there are many who could do worse on both counts. Far too many who are also rated beyond their abilities.

I'd rather you choose the successor than those who will. And I am being serious compared to Lerner and Faulkner.

I am willing to listen to alternatives.

Ronald koeman an experienced manager at European level and has expressed a desire to manage in the premier league next season , feyenoord contract expires in June.

Eastie - do you honestly believe either Lerner of Faulkner with their complete and utter dearth of footballing knowlege could recruit him? Now? Or in the next couple of weeks / moths if they sacked Lambert?

They couldn't pursuade Martinez or OGS. As I said before they'd likely hire Alan Ball if he wan't dead. After all he was a World Cup winner as he told everyone at every oppotunity.

[PaulWinch again]

Are the clowns who run our club up to the job of sacking a poor manager and employing a new one?

Like I said that's not a reason to keep Lambert though. At the end of the day you don't keep a bad manager, because you're scared of who to employ next. Whoever it is would struggle to do worse than Lambert is currently.

PWA I give you Billy McNeill. He was the worst manager in our history and bearing in mind the competition and who he succeeded that was some feat.

Faulkwit and Non Lerner couldn't pick their nose let alone another manager.

Regardless you'd hope they're actually learning. I don't think the logic behind hiring Lambert was bad, he's just let them down.

[LeeB]

Im Cardiff and Newcastle we've played two sides who had zero confidence on the back of several bad results and yet we failed to score in either. Dreadful and lambert should go.

To be replaced by who? And please bear in mind the recruiters and their abject knwledge of football.

I have no idea, but that's not my job. What I will say is that there are not many who could get us playing worse football or worse results.

I think there are many who could do worse on both counts. Far too many who are also rated beyond their abilities.

I'd rather you choose the successor than those who will. And I am being serious compared to Lerner and Faulkner.

I am willing to listen to alternatives.

Ronald koeman an experienced manager at European level and has expressed a desire to manage in the premier league next season , feyenoord contract expires in June.

No thanks, a quick wiki read if his managerial career shows him making an arse of most of his jobs. Certainly strikes me as someone trading on his reputation as a player.

[mike]

Are the clowns who run our club up to the job of sacking a poor manager and employing a new one?

Like I said that's not a reason to keep Lambert though. At the end of the day you don't keep a bad manager, because you're scared of who to employ next. Whoever it is would struggle to do worse than Lambert is currently.

PWA I give you Billy McNeill. He was the worst manager in our history and bearing in mind the competition and who he succeeded that was some feat.

Faulkwit and Non Lerner couldn't pick their nose let alone another manager.

Regardless you'd hope they're actually learning. I don't think the logic behind hiring Lambert was bad, he's just let them down.

If they really are about to give him a new contract, I'm not sure they are learning.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Just back too.
Thought we looked promising in the first half - some good chances went begging!

Inevitably at this level you pay the price for missed chances , but to play as badly as we did second half, Benteke to play as if he didn't give a shit, and the rest of the team to go through the motions, was inviting them to come on to us. The only time their supporters raised a voice was with 10 minutes to go after Benteke had somehow managed to find a defender when there were two Villa strikers clear on goal.
Their supporters and players responded and upped their game and went for it. We wilted, embarrassingly!
When they hit the post I thought we'd ridden our luck for this game and got the point we deserved.
Then we somehow manage to present them with a perfect chance to nick the game.
Tired and depressed.

Quite a few of the clubs around us are on an upward trend - ours is definitley downward!
I fear the worst this season.
Tired and more depressed.

[PaulWinch again]

Are the clowns who run our club up to the job of sacking a poor manager and employing a new one?

Like I said that's not a reason to keep Lambert though. At the end of the day you don't keep a bad manager, because you're scared of who to employ next. Whoever it is would struggle to do worse than Lambert is currently.

PWA I give you Billy McNeill. He was the worst manager in our history and bearing in mind the competition and who he succeeded that was some feat.

Faulkwit and Non Lerner couldn't pick their nose let alone another manager.

Regardless you'd hope they're actually learning. I don't think the logic behind hiring Lambert was bad, he's just let them down.

If they really are about to give him a new contract, I'm not sure they are learning.

If it happens.

[rob_bridge]

Are the clowns who run our club up to the job of sacking a poor manager and employing a new one?

Like I said that's not a reason to keep Lambert though. At the end of the day you don't keep a bad manager, because you're scared of who to employ next. Whoever it is would struggle to do worse than Lambert is currently.

PWA I give you Billy McNeill. He was the worst manager in our history and bearing in mind the competition and who he succeeded that was some feat.

Faulkwit and Non Lerner couldn't pick their nose let alone another manager.

Regardless you'd hope they're actually learning. I don't think the logic behind hiring Lambert was bad, he's just let them down.

I don't think they have for one minute Lambert delivering what they want. Even if he gets relegated Faulkner has stated his job is safe. Everything on the pitch has been sliding since Faulkner's elevated positioning. Maybe coincidence.

Do you think they have a succession plan? They clearly didn't in 2010, 2011 and 2012.

[silhillvilla]

Hats off to all the villa fans that travelled up and down the country today . Heard you load and clear on TV and thank you all for being a credit to the club again today.

[Louzie0]

Seconded and congrats on getting through to the next Cup round, silhillvilla!

[frank]

Hats off to all the villa fans that travelled up and down the country today . Heard you load and clear on TV and thank you all for being a credit to the club again today.

I was chatting to Newcastle friends after the game and they said they'd heard us throughout the game, even though we were right up in the top tier. I thought our support today was excellent and, to be fair, the team deserved it in the first  half. But at the end the  Villa fans  left in angry silence