Transfer Speculation / Gossip

[RussellC]

I have no idea who Nick Mashiter is (other than a journalist) or why he would be privy to contract negotiations. I can think of a number of good or bad reasons (from our point of view) as to why Lescott did not sign for Villa. To subscribe to one particular one is just to choose the one that suits your overall view of the club.

Personally I would rather see Okore and Vlaar playing at cb for us next season; and also for Donacien to be given serious game time. This will serve our longer term interests better.  Senderos/Lescott may represent necessary contingency but of the two Senderos will be more likely to accept and less likely to block the path that I hope we are taking.

It has absolutely nothing to do with choosing "the one that suits your overall view of the club". It's about forming an opinion about the 2 players we've bought in so far against what our rivals are doing. Even in the knowledge that we'd be working to a fairly tight budget this summer I think people were still expecting Lescott and Hoolahan to come in. Ending up with Senderos and Cole was always going to leave an air of dismay.

[Rigadon]

Lescott would've been perfect.  We've signed the cheaper option, it can't be spun otherwise for my money. 

[barrysleftfoot]

 I'd rather buy the lad from Sheff Utd who they are all after, Maguire.

 For me Okores and Vlaar is a good defensive partnership.I think Baker needs a season away, and Clark is a never will be.Senderos will be a back up for injuries, sell Clark and buy Maguire, buying good young up and coming players should be our remit ufn, not over paid has beens.

[Rigadon]

I'd rather buy the lad from Sheff Utd who they are all after, Maguire.

 For me Okores and Vlaar is a good defensive partnership.I think Baker needs a season away, and Clark is a never will be.Senderos will be a back up for injuries, sell Clark and buy Maguire, buying good young up and coming players should be our remit ufn, not over paid has beens.

Not to appear argumentative, but how can we possibly know whether Okores  was a) ever good enough and be) the same after his injury and c) will form a good partnership with Ron Vlaar?

We need proven quality in specific areas. 

[RussellC]

I'd rather buy the lad from Sheff Utd who they are all after, Maguire.

 For me Okores and Vlaar is a good defensive partnership.I think Baker needs a season away, and Clark is a never will be.Senderos will be a back up for injuries, sell Clark and buy Maguire, buying good young up and coming players should be our remit ufn, not over paid has beens.

Not to appear argumentative, but how can we possibly know whether Okores  was a) ever good enough and be) the same after his injury and c) will form a good partnership with Ron Vlaar?

We need proven quality in specific areas. 

Completely agree with this. For where we are at the moment, blooding youngsters in the first team should be put on the back-burner.

[barrysleftfoot]

 Fair enough Rigadon.

   From what i have seen of Okores, and hopeing he recovers fully, he is a fast agressive central midfielder , a la Paul Parker if you like, who needs to play a physical, dominant CH who generally can command the aerial attacks, Vlaar if you like.

  Fair comment about youngsters, but i've had enough of over paid never have beens who come to VP just for one last pay day.

 

[Rigadon]

Same here mate.  But if we want to stay up (and I think at this stage that's the upper limits of our ambition as a club) we need more than promise and hope, we've relied on that for far too long already. 

[andrew08]

Same here mate.  But if we want to stay up (and I think at this stage that's the upper limits of our ambition as a club) we need more than promise and hope, we've relied on that for far too long already. 

Yes, but if we're judging success as avoiding relegation, then the policy IS working.

[Rigadon]

Same here mate.  But if we want to stay up (and I think at this stage that's the upper limits of our ambition as a club) we need more than promise and hope, we've relied on that for far too long already. 

Yes, but if we're judging success as avoiding relegation, then the policy IS working.

Ho hum. Yeah so far.

[Mister E]

The Blaggies have Craig and Joleon: we have Philippe and Joe. I know who has done the best business so far this summer ... it ain't us.

[eamonn]

I wonder did our fans mocking of his appearance put him off us. Then again, Baggies fans may have been just as cruel.

[curlytailavfc]

hes thinking on the lines if wba go down tough but villa go down ive cursed the villa

[pauliewalnuts]

I have no idea who Nick Mashiter is (other than a journalist) or why he would be privy to contract negotiations. I can think of a number of good or bad reasons (from our point of view) as to why Lescott did not sign for Villa. To subscribe to one particular one is just to choose the one that suits your overall view of the club

But isn't that just human nature?

For example, if the club spends several transfer windows buying players from low wage sources, and if the manager endlessly goes on about not being able to afford wages for a lot of players, then that's information from genuine sources - ie what we've actually done, and what the manager of the club has said - which influences how believable or not you find things.

It's not about what suits your overall view of the club so much as the one which you find more believable given the way things have gone over an extended period.

[pauliewalnuts]

I wonder did our fans mocking of his appearance put him off us. Then again, Baggies fans may have been just as cruel.

Honestly, if that's the case, he can fuck off.

He always made a point of giving it the big 'un in front of our fans whenever he scored against us.

I remember with fondness him doing exactly that when he scored for Everton against us, only to see his "Doh!" face shortly after when his fuck up allowed Ashley Young to go right up the other end of the pitch and score another winner.

[Steve67]

Nick Mashiter? Surely that's a made up name? Lescott to Albion. Tough titty. Let's move on.