The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[pauliewalnuts]

Correct. Schteve was interviewed after Houllier had gone. The fan pressure thing if thought about logically is a load of tosh. Owner listens to fans and doesn't appoint a certain manager. He then appoints one that is going to be significantly less popular.

Like being in a restaurant, looking at the menu, saying "oh no, I don't like the look of that, it has fish in it" then following it up with "I'll have the Captain Birdseye Fishiest Fish Pie, thanks". On a fish shaped plate. On a trawler. Off the cost of Grimsby.

[PeterWithesShin]

While wear one of those codhead hats.

[paul_e]

The mood on the villa sites and social media definitely feels like Monday was the breaking point, even the votes on here were largely calling for him to be given time or outright supportive but now it pretty clear that the majority have had enough.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Correct. Schteve was interviewed after Houllier had gone. The fan pressure thing if thought about logically is a load of tosh. Owner listens to fans and doesn't appoint a certain manager. He then appoints one that is going to be significantly less popular.

Like being in a restaurant, looking at the menu, saying "oh no, I don't like the look of that, it has fish in it" then following it up with "I'll have the Captain Birdseye Fishiest Fish Pie, thanks". On a fish shaped plate. On a trawler. Off the cost of Grimsby.

Then returning to the same restaurant a year later, complaining how you've just recovered from food poisoning from the last time you were there. The waiter apologises and you give your order, "Same again".

[pauliewalnuts]

Correct. Schteve was interviewed after Houllier had gone. The fan pressure thing if thought about logically is a load of tosh. Owner listens to fans and doesn't appoint a certain manager. He then appoints one that is going to be significantly less popular.

Like being in a restaurant, looking at the menu, saying "oh no, I don't like the look of that, it has fish in it" then following it up with "I'll have the Captain Birdseye Fishiest Fish Pie, thanks". On a fish shaped plate. On a trawler. Off the cost of Grimsby.

Then returning to the same restaurant a year later, complaining how you've just recovered from food poisoning from the last time you were there. The waiter apologises and you give your order, "Same again".

Then, despite it making you vomit for weeks, going on TripAdvisor and writing a review for the restaurant "The fish pie was amazing."

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Correct. Schteve was interviewed after Houllier had gone. The fan pressure thing if thought about logically is a load of tosh. Owner listens to fans and doesn't appoint a certain manager. He then appoints one that is going to be significantly less popular.

Like being in a restaurant, looking at the menu, saying "oh no, I don't like the look of that, it has fish in it" then following it up with "I'll have the Captain Birdseye Fishiest Fish Pie, thanks". On a fish shaped plate. On a trawler. Off the cost of Grimsby.

Then returning to the same restaurant a year later, complaining how you've just recovered from food poisoning from the last time you were there. The waiter apologises and you give your order, "Same again".

Then, despite it making you vomit for weeks, going on TripAdvisor and writing a review for the restaurant "The fish pie was amazing."

"In fact it was so good I bought the company".

[pauliewalnuts]

Correct. Schteve was interviewed after Houllier had gone. The fan pressure thing if thought about logically is a load of tosh. Owner listens to fans and doesn't appoint a certain manager. He then appoints one that is going to be significantly less popular.

Like being in a restaurant, looking at the menu, saying "oh no, I don't like the look of that, it has fish in it" then following it up with "I'll have the Captain Birdseye Fishiest Fish Pie, thanks". On a fish shaped plate. On a trawler. Off the cost of Grimsby.

Then returning to the same restaurant a year later, complaining how you've just recovered from food poisoning from the last time you were there. The waiter apologises and you give your order, "Same again".

Then, despite it making you vomit for weeks, going on TripAdvisor and writing a review for the restaurant "The fish pie was amazing."

"In fact it was so good I bought the company".

"And took everything off the menu, except for the fish pie"

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Correct. Schteve was interviewed after Houllier had gone. The fan pressure thing if thought about logically is a load of tosh. Owner listens to fans and doesn't appoint a certain manager. He then appoints one that is going to be significantly less popular.

Like being in a restaurant, looking at the menu, saying "oh no, I don't like the look of that, it has fish in it" then following it up with "I'll have the Captain Birdseye Fishiest Fish Pie, thanks". On a fish shaped plate. On a trawler. Off the cost of Grimsby.

Then returning to the same restaurant a year later, complaining how you've just recovered from food poisoning from the last time you were there. The waiter apologises and you give your order, "Same again".

Then, despite it making you vomit for weeks, going on TripAdvisor and writing a review for the restaurant "The fish pie was amazing."

"In fact it was so good I bought the company".

"And took everything off the menu, except for the fish pie"

"Sadly, due to family commitments, I no longer am able to dine there but I'm told by phone 4 times a week the fish pie is excellent".

[pauliewalnuts]

Correct. Schteve was interviewed after Houllier had gone. The fan pressure thing if thought about logically is a load of tosh. Owner listens to fans and doesn't appoint a certain manager. He then appoints one that is going to be significantly less popular.

Like being in a restaurant, looking at the menu, saying "oh no, I don't like the look of that, it has fish in it" then following it up with "I'll have the Captain Birdseye Fishiest Fish Pie, thanks". On a fish shaped plate. On a trawler. Off the cost of Grimsby.

Then returning to the same restaurant a year later, complaining how you've just recovered from food poisoning from the last time you were there. The waiter apologises and you give your order, "Same again".

Then, despite it making you vomit for weeks, going on TripAdvisor and writing a review for the restaurant "The fish pie was amazing."

"In fact it was so good I bought the company".

"And took everything off the menu, except for the fish pie"

"Sadly, due to family commitments, I no longer am able to dine there but I'm told by phone 4 times a week the fish pie is excellent".

"I feel that I can no longer give the restaurant my full attention, so like the Salmonites, I am going to swim with my own. PS I have also just extended the cook's contract"

[LTA]

someone at work was telling me today today that he's heard there is a clause in Lamberts contract that if he's sacked in the first 12 months, he wont be paid off.  Must admit I'm very dubious that anyone would agree to that clause.  Just wondered if anyone here has heard it too?

[JUAN PABLO]

Wouldn't he have been sacked Tuesday morning then .

[Rudy65]

When you strip everything back Paul Lambert has essentially become a less well funded and less succesful O'Neill. He doesn't know how to rotate his squad and his only tactic is to counter attack. The only differences are that he hasn't had as much money to spend and he doesn't appear to motivate anyone.

I think you'll find those last 2 are tied together, Mon's motivational expertise seems, in hindsight, to have been mostly about offering big wages and big bonuses.

I called Lambert Mon-lite when we were linked to him and I've never really changed my opinion.  Given I never had a massive issue with how we played under mon (it worked for 3 years but the last season was 1 too many) I've been willing to give Lambert time to try to sort things and get us to the point of having a solid, competitive squad sitting in the top half of the table before we started looking for some to build on that foundation.  The issue is he isn't capable of getting us that foundation, given where we were when he took over I'd have accepted a couple of years to get to a point of being tough to break down and capable of hurting teams at the other end if they don't show us some respect.  At the start of this season it looked like he might have figured it out but the toothless displays since the liverpool game have shown that teams really don't need to have any worry about us hurting them, just double up on our fullbacks and we're fucked.  Once you realise that you can start overloading down our flanks safe in the knowledge that we won't really threaten so long as you keep a steady 3 at the back it becomes a matter of when not if and patience will bring you goals eventually.

that's what I'm struggling with. We looked like we had stabilised and improved a bit early season. The defence looked stronger and we were getting points. Then 5 games of utter toss

I think thats the problem. The first four games gave us all false hope. However, it was a false dawn and when you analyse the games you can see why. We did ok at stoke but not entirely convincing. newcastle was awful and we should have lost based The Geordies second hallf chances. Hull was good first half but hanging on in the second. Liverpool was a back to the wall performance which could have gone either way. Liverpool's impotent attack since says it all...... And there was Orient.

 So we were average at the start but dug out some results and have been f in awful since. A carry on from the end of last season

[tom jennings III]

What has happened to take us to this point since the 6-1 thrashing of Sunderland that all but guaranteed our safety two seasons ago? Why have once-promising and occasionally exciting players like Westwood, Weimann, Lowton gone backwards so badly over the last couple of years? I really thought we had turned a corner that night.

[Ian.]

What has happened to take us to this point since the 6-1 thrashing of Sunderland that all but guaranteed our safety two seasons ago? Why have once-promising and occasionally exciting players like Westwood, Weimann, Lowton gone backwards so badly over the last couple of years? I really thought we had turned a corner that night.

That night seems such a long time ago. Your right, what's gone so wrong?

[not3bad]

Has #LambertOut trending in Brum been posted anywhere yet?

https://twitter.com/hashtag/lambertout?f=realtime&src=tren

Yep. It was trending all over UK just after the QPR game.