Aston Villa v Sheffield United Post-Match Thread

[curiousorange]

I just heard that Walsall managed to beat them only 3 days ago. I assume they've spent a little less than Lambert in the past 18 months.

That's why the whole thing about Lambert having his hands tied doesn't wash with me. I can take us looking like a team of incompetents against Premier League teams because these aren't Premier League players, but when you can't break down League One and Two teams with equivalent players and above, that says to me the coaching has to take a massive amount of responsibility.

[Des Little]

Don't worry, everyone - Culverhouse has a plan...

[Oscar Arce]

Villa fans have never shown such patience to a manager, seeing what he is trying to do with younger players but the 'plan' has to show progress and to me this season the football has been turgid and unwatchable, we play every game on the break because Lambert's buys (all the same type of player, particularly in midfield) have no creativity or ability to impose themselves on the game.
Every team I've ever seen has to have some creativity to break down a defence (particularly at home) but we have none.
We play etter away because the home team usually need to show intent to attack, leaving them open to counter attack.
Having watched Villa in every game since Lambert's appointment I have to conclude tha this is his 'plan'.
I go back a long way and he reminds me so much of Tommy Docherty, young players at all costs, even if it means relegation, as it did in Docherty's case.
I can only conclude that he will not change, he will not buy creative orward thinking midfield players that you need t unlock a defence at home and that is why we have such an appalling home record.
Westwwod, Delph, El Ahamidi, Slla, et al cannot play a forward pass but are reasonably effective in holding the centre ground to set up a counter attacking style.
For this reason, added to the dire period we are suffeing, the lack of a coherent style to break down defences, and the manager's stubborness to change (another Docherty trait..it must be a Scots thing!!) I have to say the only solution for me would be for the manager to be relieved of his position.
The first thing an experienced manager would do is to sign better and more experienced players in the spine of the team, which is exactly what Vic Crowe as Docherty's replacement did, but unfortunately too late.

'Young players at all costs' Oscar. Do you mean like Peter Broadbent?

Tommy Docherty didn't sign Peter Broadbent.

I know but he brought him back into the team to provide a bit of class. Wonderful player to watch even though he was coming to the end of his glorious career.

Yes he brought him back into the side briefly but he was signed by Dick Taylor from Shrewsbury for his 'Indian Summer' which included a great FA Cup run and saviour from relegation, but was soon jettisoned the following season when he bought only younger players. That was the comparison I was making with Lambert. And once it all went wrong, and just like Lambert,he just wouldn't change his course, the stubborn bugger.

The Doc was exactly the manager we needed to bring the club into the 20th century. Villa suddenly became known again. Lambert is a sour faced obstinate fool. The Doc made me laugh..a lot

Off to bed...goodnight children everywhere.

Yes that I agree with the Doc was just what we needed at that time of the takeover, but we didn't need him getting us relegated to the Third Division!  Doc also had charisma and charm, unlike Lambert, sadly his tactical awareness was about the same as Lambert's! Goodnight too too Ron Ron

[caster troy]

I just heard that Walsall managed to beat them only 3 days ago. I assume they've spent a little less than Lambert in the past 18 months.

That's why the whole thing about Lambert having his hands tied doesn't wash with me. I can take us looking like a team of incompetents against Premier League teams because these aren't Premier League players, but when you can't break down League One and Two teams with equivalent players and above, that says to me the coaching has to take a massive amount of responsibility.

Exactly. Every week we look like a team of strangers, bereft of ideas and lacking any cohesion whatsoever.

[eric woolban woolban]

As much as I loathe Lambert and as much as I want him out this club, there is sadly a very low number of potential managers who could come in and turn our situation around. We're damned if we do and we're damned if we don't.

[Brian Taylor]

As much as I loathe Lambert and as much as I want him out this club, there is sadly a very low number of potential managers who could come in and turn our situation around. We're damned if we do and we're damned if we don't.

  Oh for fooks sake..glad I am abroad..Fee-ask-co! a Fiasco!

[Tony Erdington]

Stick your mortgage on Arsenal and/or Liverpool then.

are you saying WE have a chance against arse?

[villan from luton]

What is Mike Bassett doing at the moment, think he could come in and improve the style of play

[Monty]

What is Mike Bassett doing at the moment, think he could come in and improve the style of play

Funnily enough...success at Norwich, goes to job with equal resources but much bigger expectations, proves that he knows lots of formations but doesn't know how to get players to actually pass the ball, surrounded with yes-men...

[Tony Erdington]

Time for our owner to come out of his cave in the Catskill mountains and (as the yanks say) man up.

he obviously hasn't got the bolox. typical yank give it the big one and if you cant bluff , as we say in Erdington DO ONE.

HIS  as much Villa as ellis their both cents and dimes

[gervilla]

I'm so happy my daughters 6th birthday party kept me from watching on the laptop today.
I wasn't one bit surprised we lost today, just like v Milwall, Bradford, Palace or anyone for that matter.
There is something seriously rotten at Villa Park.
We really are shit.
Sad times indeed and I'm not holding out for any change to this sorry state of affairs any time soon.

[Taylor]

I've had enough of people blaming MON, Lambert, Vlaar's absence, the players, Benteke. Please sell up Lerner. you have absolutely no idea how to run a football club.

[Tony Erdington]

can some one tell me what is success to lerner

or should the question be what is failure?


this twat (lerner) although I could be talking about others at my club, are doing untold damage to our PROUD HISTORY

[villan from luton]

The owner really has to come out and tell the fans what his plans for the club are. His fingers were burned with MON, but he has to decide whether he wants the club to move forward again because if this continues the value of the club will go down and he will end up losing big money. I understand he is a quiet man, but he needs to show some leadership qualities and as for the CEO, when the going gets tough, he also seems to go AWOL. I think Lambert has made a prize penis of himself this week and the performances this season have been nothing short of a disgrace. Lets be honest, we all know we are lucky to have the number of points that we have got. I have followed this great club since 1970 and never rarely have I felt so demoralised at how our club is going

[j66acd]

Has Martin Allen fallen into Gok's wardrobe? That cardigan is terrible, almost as bad as being beat today!