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Offline ronshirt

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #330 on: December 27, 2013, 07:38:22 PM »
The Gnasher. With Risso as 1st team coach. I think if we all played along Lerner wouldn't notice any difference.

Or Ranting Rob. He could give abuse to the fuckers behind the dugout and introduce porn pictures into the program.

It's all sorted then. How come Lerner and his lick-spittles make it all look so difficult?

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #331 on: December 27, 2013, 07:43:27 PM »
I'd prefer to see Lambert sort it out, as opposed to Lambert out.

Same here.  There'll be plenty of clubs wanting Lambert should we be rash enough to get rid.

Like who?

Offline eastie

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #332 on: December 27, 2013, 07:45:34 PM »
I'd prefer to see Lambert sort it out, as opposed to Lambert out.

Same here.  There'll be plenty of clubs wanting Lambert should we be rash enough to get rid.

Like who?

Forfar athletic, Cowdenbeath and Stranraer. :)

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #333 on: December 27, 2013, 07:47:04 PM »
I'd be breaking the bank for a decent foreign coach if we could. Tempt Hiddink for the rest of the season.

Failing that I'd take the punt on OGS. I think he's got the makings of being a very astute coach. Unlike many of the former Fergie charges who've turned to management. OGS has a level head, intelligence and a steady ego which puts him above someone like Keane say, who just doesn't have the temperament or consideration to be a top manager.
It may be a little too soon for OGS but I'd certainly have him in the summer. My feeling is that he'll be in the Prem before the season is out, so we might have to move now. IMO he'd do no worse than Lambert, and tactically he'll have a lot more about him. He was well rated at Utd as a coach and he's done well at Molde. He's also an exceptional exponent of studying a game in process, as his prowess as a super-sub proved.

I always thought his prowess as a super sub was more indicative of coming on late against tired minds and legs,
in tandem with being supplied by the likes of Giggs Scholes and Beckham...

Its stretching credulity a little bit to suggest scoring late goals for the best attack in the country is proof of anything.
Other than of course being a good goal scorer. For instance Dzeko has scored a fair few late goals too.

I honestly don't know much about him or Molde, but if he could teach Luna to stop  facing his own goalkeeper and then giving the ball away in stupid areas he'd probably get my vote.
 

Offline Billy Walker

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #334 on: December 27, 2013, 07:48:12 PM »
I'd prefer to see Lambert sort it out, as opposed to Lambert out.

Same here.  There'll be plenty of clubs wanting Lambert should we be rash enough to get rid.

Like who?

If we were to sack Lambert tomorrow I reckon the Baggies would be straight in for him for starters. 

Offline eastie

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #335 on: December 27, 2013, 07:49:15 PM »
I'd prefer to see Lambert sort it out, as opposed to Lambert out.

Same here.  There'll be plenty of clubs wanting Lambert should we be rash enough to get rid.

Like who?

If we were to sack Lambert tomorrow I reckon the Baggies would be straight in for him for starters. 

Jackpot!

Would be like winning the lottery .

Offline aj2k77

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #336 on: December 27, 2013, 07:51:05 PM »
I'd prefer to see Lambert sort it out, as opposed to Lambert out.

Same here.  There'll be plenty of clubs wanting Lambert should we be rash enough to get rid.

Like who?

If we were to sack Lambert tomorrow I reckon the Baggies would be straight in for him for starters. 

What do you think Albion will have seen in Lambert?

Offline Billy Walker

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #337 on: December 27, 2013, 07:52:47 PM »
I'd prefer to see Lambert sort it out, as opposed to Lambert out.

Same here.  There'll be plenty of clubs wanting Lambert should we be rash enough to get rid.

Like who?

If we were to sack Lambert tomorrow I reckon the Baggies would be straight in for him for starters. 

Jackpot!

Would be like winning the lottery .

It would be interesting, I'll grant you that, Eastie.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #338 on: December 27, 2013, 07:59:59 PM »
Its stretching credulity a little bit to suggest scoring late goals for the best attack in the country is proof of anything.
Other than of course being a good goal scorer. For instance Dzeko has scored a fair few late goals too.

I think the credibility comes from an alex ferguson quote.  To paraphrase ferguson "he'd [OGS] sit on the bench telling me where the defence's weakness was encouraging me to put him on.  Invariably he'd score in exactly the manner he described."

Fergie and most of the man u lot are massive fans of OGS tactical awareness.  I think it was G Neville who said, when asked how do you pass the UEFA coaching badges, "sit by someone intelligent and copy them, in my case I sat by OGS"

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #339 on: December 27, 2013, 08:01:40 PM »
One might argue that West Bromwich Albion is Lambert's sort of level.  Perhaps he'll be the type of manager who excels as smaller clubs?

Offline Billy Walker

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #340 on: December 27, 2013, 08:13:22 PM »

(In reply to aj2k77) What do you think Albion will have seen in Lambert?


A guy who can keep teams in the Premier League on a budget would be the main attraction I imagine.  I think they will have noticed how  he had his Norwich and Villa (towards the end of last season)  sides playing too.

I know we are pretty awful at the moment but we're just about half way through the season with plenty of football left to play.  If we stick with Lambert I reckon  we will finish mid-table and build again for 2014-15.





« Last Edit: December 27, 2013, 08:16:39 PM by Billy Walker »

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #341 on: December 27, 2013, 08:22:53 PM »
I wouldn't mind Bielsa as he seems a bit mad. Which is a bonus. Plus this from Wiki has for some reason amused me.

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A fanatic of football videos that he adds to his collection, Bielsa on occasion checks pitch measurements by pacing them out before deciding on a particular formation. He allocates separate training times for different parts of his squad. Former Argentine national team captain Roberto Ayala and defender under Bielsa stated "Sometimes we wouldn't see any of the strikers, because he'd have them training at a different time, and it was the same with the midfielders."[2]

He is known for watching and collecting numerous football videos to the point of obsession. He edits and analyzes each video for each individual player. He also utilizes statistical software and other technological tools to prepare for games. John Carlin, an English journalist, has stated that Bielsa "has the most cultured library of soccer in the world." [26]
Athletic Bilbao's striker Fernando Llorente said in an interview "At first he seems tough and he may even annoy you with his persistence and don't-take-no-for-an-answer resilience, but in the end he is a genius." [27] Barcelona's Pep Guardiola called him the "best manager in the world" in 2012.[28]

As Bielsa refuses to grant exclusive interviews, the press conference has become his preferred method of communication. He has been known to field every last question from the assembled media during these gatherings. If the talk turns to the intricacies of the game, a three- or even four-hour press conference is possible. According to him: Every section of the media should get the same attention from me, from the capital's most prominent TV channel to the smallest newspaper in the provinces.[2]

But he doesnt speak English. Then again neither does Lambert. Looks like its Sven and Nancy then!

Offline Billy Walker

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #342 on: December 27, 2013, 08:25:08 PM »
One might argue that West Bromwich Albion is Lambert's sort of level.  Perhaps he'll be the type of manager who excels as smaller clubs?

It's a possibility.  What he's trying to do at Villa is a huge challenge for him, that's for certain.  Thinking back to last season I was very impressed with the way he stuck to his guns and kept faith with his team - even in the January transfer window - when every other club in the relegation scrap was panicking.  At the time  I thought, "Yes, this guy has the mental toughness to turn this club around and succeed," and I still think it. 

Offline eastie

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #343 on: December 27, 2013, 08:26:08 PM »
I wouldn't mind Bielsa as he seems a bit mad. Which is a bonus. Plus this from Wiki has for some reason amused me.

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A fanatic of football videos that he adds to his collection, Bielsa on occasion checks pitch measurements by pacing them out before deciding on a particular formation. He allocates separate training times for different parts of his squad. Former Argentine national team captain Roberto Ayala and defender under Bielsa stated "Sometimes we wouldn't see any of the strikers, because he'd have them training at a different time, and it was the same with the midfielders."[2]

He is known for watching and collecting numerous football videos to the point of obsession. He edits and analyzes each video for each individual player. He also utilizes statistical software and other technological tools to prepare for games. John Carlin, an English journalist, has stated that Bielsa "has the most cultured library of soccer in the world." [26]
Athletic Bilbao's striker Fernando Llorente said in an interview "At first he seems tough and he may even annoy you with his persistence and don't-take-no-for-an-answer resilience, but in the end he is a genius." [27] Barcelona's Pep Guardiola called him the "best manager in the world" in 2012.[28]

As Bielsa refuses to grant exclusive interviews, the press conference has become his preferred method of communication. He has been known to field every last question from the assembled media during these gatherings. If the talk turns to the intricacies of the game, a three- or even four-hour press conference is possible. According to him: Every section of the media should get the same attention from me, from the capital's most prominent TV channel to the smallest newspaper in the provinces.[2]

But he doesnt speak English. Then again neither does Lambert. Looks like its Sven and Nancy then!

Maybe we could get ulrika in as well with a wet sponge.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #344 on: December 27, 2013, 08:28:16 PM »
One might argue that West Bromwich Albion is Lambert's sort of level.  Perhaps he'll be the type of manager who excels as smaller clubs?

It's a possibility.  What he's trying to do at Villa is a huge challenge for him, that's for certain.  Thinking back to last season I was very impressed with the way he stuck to his guns and kept faith with his team - even in the January transfer window - when every other club in the relegation scrap was panicking.  At the time  I thought, "Yes, this guy has the mental toughness to turn this club around and succeed," and I still think it. 

From memory a lot of the other clubs changed their manager as well.  The fact we didn't probably helped us (in hindsight). 
Obviously we cannot keep 'not' changing our manager if we're in the same situation each year, But I do think he deserves a bit longer and certainly the Jan transfer window.

 


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