and then who?

[N'Zimidy]

On a serious note Bielsa is far and away the best suggestion I've seen so far  followed by koeman - but would either take it?

Eastie, I'm sure that in the last week you've made a post saying that you take no interest in foreign football apart from watching Barcelona play Real Madrid.

What exactly is leading you to the above point of view?

His record as a manager with Argentina and Chile at international level...

He managed Argentina at one World Cup and they were knocked out in the first round. I think that's their worst performance in about forty years.

So you deciding he's 'by far and away the best suggestion' is based on abject failure ten years ago and a second round exit with a group of hugely talented Chile players four years ago?

Plus a fantastic spell at Bilbao where he knocked out United in their run to the Europa League final.

[eastie]

On a serious note Bielsa is far and away the best suggestion I've seen so far  followed by koeman - but would either take it?

Eastie, I'm sure that in the last week you've made a post saying that you take no interest in foreign football apart from watching Barcelona play Real Madrid.

What exactly is leading you to the above point of view?

His record as a manager with Argentina and Chile at international level...

He managed Argentina at one World Cup and they were knocked out in the first round. I think that's their worst performance in about forty years.

So you deciding he's 'by far and away the best suggestion' is based on abject failure ten years ago and a second round exit with a group of hugely talented Chile players four years ago?

He stayed 6 years at the helm and had successes during his reign there too - hardly a flop.
Compared to suggestions like malky mackay , Steve Clarke , Harry redknapp etc - what names suggested so far would you consider the best option ?

I note you didn't quote my remarks about his success with Bilbao in getting to major finals including the Europa cup .

[Dave]

On a serious note Bielsa is far and away the best suggestion I've seen so far  followed by koeman - but would either take it?

Eastie, I'm sure that in the last week you've made a post saying that you take no interest in foreign football apart from watching Barcelona play Real Madrid.

What exactly is leading you to the above point of view?

His record as a manager with Argentina and Chile at international level...

He managed Argentina at one World Cup and they were knocked out in the first round. I think that's their worst performance in about forty years.

So you deciding he's 'by far and away the best suggestion' is based on abject failure ten years ago and a second round exit with a group of hugely talented Chile players four years ago?

Plus a fantastic spell at Bilbao where he knocked out United in their run to the Europa League final.

Eastie's already said that he didn't see any of Bilbao when he was in charge. They're not Real Madrid or Barcelona, y'see.

[Monty]

To be fair, going out to a Brazil side which could have been built specifically to beat you with all the resources at their disposal is not a great shame. Also, Chile have a few fantastic players but actually a lot of not-so-brilliant players make up most of the squad, and Bielsa made them look better than they ever should have as a team.

[supertom]

I'd be breaking the bank for a decent foreign coach if we could. Tempt Hiddink for the rest of the season.

Failing that I'd take the punt on OGS. I think he's got the makings of being a very astute coach. Unlike many of the former Fergie charges who've turned to management. OGS has a level head, intelligence and a steady ego which puts him above someone like Keane say, who just doesn't have the temperament or consideration to be a top manager.
It may be a little too soon for OGS but I'd certainly have him in the summer. My feeling is that he'll be in the Prem before the season is out, so we might have to move now. IMO he'd do no worse than Lambert, and tactically he'll have a lot more about him. He was well rated at Utd as a coach and he's done well at Molde. He's also an exceptional exponent of studying a game in process, as his prowess as a super-sub proved.

[eastie]

To be accurate dave, I never said I'd never watched Bilbao during his reign - I said last week that  the only European league game that I'd really watch these days is El Classico.

I watch champions league games and used to watch la liga often often on weekends but have lost interest to a degree and have other things to do with my time .

Now please tell me what suggestions on this thread are better than Bielsa?

[Clampy]

I don't think I've seen any suggestions on here today that have got me excited other than one's which we probably wouldn't have a chance of getting.

[Dave]

Now please tell me what suggestions on this thread are better than Bielsa?

Firstly, I don't think we'll be looking for a new manager until June 2014 at the earlier. Even then I think Lambert will be given the chance to carry on for at least one more year.

On Bielsa, I'd be more than happy were he to be appointed, provided that there is a plan and a structure in place that leads to his appointment rather just picking somebody else for a set of arbitrary reasons. I'd say that is more important than who the manager is.

I brought it up as I was just interested to hear how somebody who says that they have no interest in football outside the UK can decide that a manager who has managed for 21 out of his 23 years in South American football is clearly the best candidate.

[eastie]

Now please tell me what suggestions on this thread are better than Bielsa?

Firstly, I don't think we'll be looking for a new manager until June 2014 at the earlier. Even then I think Lambert will be given the chance to carry on for at least one more year.

On Bielsa, I'd be more than happy were he to be appointed, provided that there is a plan and a structure in place that leads to his appointment rather just picking somebody else for a set of arbitrary reasons. I'd say that is more important than who the manager is.

I brought it up as I was just interested to hear how somebody who says that they have no interest in football outside the UK can decide that a manager who has managed for 21 out of his 23 years in South American football is clearly the best candidate.

I no longer watch European league games on tv other than El Classico- doesn't mean I have no interest in any other football - I don't watch Norwegian football but I would give OGS a go rather than Lambert because the football under  Lambert is quite frankly awful - I've watched villa for 35 years and many of those as a season ticket holder and this is truly abysmal.

[Dave]

I don't watch Norwegian football but I would give OGS a go rather than Lambert because the football under  Lambert is quite frankly awful - I've watched villa for 35 years and many of those as a season ticket holder and this is truly abysmal

So on what basis are you saying you'd have Solskjaer if you know nothing about him? Why not Ronny Delia who outperformed Solskjaer last season?

Plus, considering you were a big advocate of Lambert becoming our manager in 2012 do you really think you should trust your own judgement now? You picked badly last time, what's to say you'll do a better job this time?

Incidentally, I know nothing about either of the above two as managers either and I wanted Lambert as manager in 2012 too. But I'm not the one insisting that this bloke I don't know much about or the other bloke that I don't know much are the logical choice.

[ronshirt]

The Gnasher. With Risso as 1st team coach. I reckon if we all played along Lerner wouldn't notice any difference.

[Monty]

I don't watch Norwegian football but I would give OGS a go rather than Lambert because the football under  Lambert is quite frankly awful - I've watched villa for 35 years and many of those as a season ticket holder and this is truly abysmal

So on what basis are you saying you'd have Solskjær if you know nothing about him? Why not Ronny Delia who outperformed Solskjær last season?

Plus, considering you were a big advocate of Lambert becoming our manager in 2012 do you really think you should trust your own judgement now? You picked badly last time, what's to say you'll do a better job this time?

Incidentally, I know nothing about either of the above two as managers either and I wanted Lambert as manager in 2012 too. But I'm not the one insisting that this bloke I don't know much about or the other bloke that I don't know much are the logical choice.

On the basis of this, I claim SOLE RIGHTS over talking about a potential new manager as I AND I (nearly) ALONE was pretty much set against Lambert becoming manager. Bizarrely enough, everyone else has been disappointed by him and I might be the only one who's opinion of him really has improved - I think he wants us to play better football than I thought he would, and he has impressed me with his seriousness and general calmness in a crisis. However, I never did want him in the first place, but I don't like being proved right and I really hope I eventually get proved wronger than Nostradamus. Sincerely.

[adrenachrome]

The Gnasher. With Risso as 1st team coach. I think if we all played along Lerner wouldn't notice any difference.

Or Ranting Rob. He could give abuse to the fuckers behind the dugout and introduce porn pictures into the program.

[Billy Walker]

I'd prefer to see Lambert sort it out, as opposed to Lambert out.

Same here.  There'll be plenty of clubs wanting Lambert should we be rash enough to get rid.

[eastie]

I don't watch Norwegian football but I would give OGS a go rather than Lambert because the football under  Lambert is quite frankly awful - I've watched villa for 35 years and many of those as a season ticket holder and this is truly abysmal

So on what basis are you saying you'd have Solskjær if you know nothing about him? Why not Ronny Delia who outperformed Solskjær last season?

Plus, considering you were a big advocate of Lambert becoming our manager in 2012 do you really think you should trust your own judgement now? You picked badly last time, what's to say you'll do a better job this time?

Incidentally, I know nothing about either of the above two as managers either and I wanted Lambert as manager in 2012 too. But I'm not the one insisting that this bloke I don't know much about or the other bloke that I don't know much are the logical choice.

Not quite sure why you are so bothered about my opinion but I have a much right to express it as you do .
Why you find it strange that I find Bielsa , an experienced and quality manager at club and international level a better bet than lambert or the other options on this thread?

You have said yourself you think Bielsa would do a good job so why can I not express that view - you have no idea what football I've watched in the past and seem to have picked up on a comment that I no longer watch other foreign league football on tv - so therefore I'm clueless as to who is or isn't a good manager?

Regarding lambert - we both wanted him at the time - it has not worked out as most of us hoped , I wanted o'Neill and O' Leary too at the time - I am a a football fan - fans get it wrong , chairmen get it wrong - thats life!

I'm just a fan expressing an opinion on a website - nothing more nothing less.