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Offline eastie

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #885 on: January 04, 2014, 08:25:01 PM »
Randy needs to appoint a new Project Manager. I fucking hate Lambert.

Agree x 100.

I'm thoroughly sick of this shit.  The embarrassments that are stacking up under his tenure are unbearable. We deserve better than this.   

He's not going to sack him, though.

Lambert has bought into the project, Lerner and Faulkner think the project is viable, and that's the problem.

Honestly, it beggars belief. What you need to do is get rid of almost every one of the high earning players. Then, you replace them with kids from the youth team, or players from the lower leagues in this country or selling leagues in Europe.

So, we have a manageable wage bill, but we also have a squad choc full of lower leagues players. It's all well and good boasting that a player only cost us 1m or 2m, but too often these are players who have demonstrated exactly why they only cost that much.

Still, they persist in this belief that, really, all you need to do is wait for these players to "bed in", for the youngsters to get a bit older, and turn into really good players.

It is absolute fucking nonsense. Paying big wages to a player is no guarantee of success, but paying low wages to a squad full of lower league players means almost guarantees you'll have no success.

Look at some of the absolute dross we've been playing. Luna, FFS, Tonev, who looks utterly out of place. Why is Weimann getting played week in, week out? I just read something on the Evening Mail website where Lambert - this week - was saying Nathan Baker has been "a big player for us this season".

Really? It must be a different Nathan Baker he's thinking of, because the one I see has been fucking rubbish, week in, week out.

The whole upper echelon of the club are absolutely deluding themselves. Randy can sit in Cleveland, or New York, or wherever he is today (obviously, we know where he won't be), and tell himself that they've hit upon a master plan all he likes, but the evidence is that we are failing even to stand still, we are going backwards.

It all takes a certain arrogance - if it was really just a matter of buying kids and waiting for them to click, don't they think *everyone* would be doing this? It hasn't work, it isn't working now, and it will not work.

I just hope that at some point very, very soon, one of them pulls his head out of the fucking sand and does something, because the whole thing is a depressing mess at the moment.

I dont give the first shit that we are 11th right now. That's not the point. Look at the gap between us and the arse end of the table, and look at where the on-field momentum suggests we are heading. We've got Arsenal and Liverpool next, two sides who play actual football. Where do we think we are going to be after that?

The whole situation is a mess, and the people responsible for it should be ashamed of the laughable disaster they've turned this club into in the last three or four years.

Best post of the season in my opinion.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #886 on: January 04, 2014, 08:25:15 PM »
Post of 2014 already. Totally agree.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #887 on: January 04, 2014, 08:29:29 PM »
Negative but fair. Cant argue with much of that.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #888 on: January 04, 2014, 08:31:01 PM »
Randy needs to appoint a new Project Manager. I fucking hate Lambert.

Agree x 100.

I'm thoroughly sick of this shit.  The embarrassments that are stacking up under his tenure are unbearable. We deserve better than this.   

He's not going to sack him, though.

Lambert has bought into the project, Lerner and Faulkner think the project is viable, and that's the problem.

Honestly, it beggars belief. What you need to do is get rid of almost every one of the high earning players. Then, you replace them with kids from the youth team, or players from the lower leagues in this country or selling leagues in Europe.

So, we have a manageable wage bill, but we also have a squad choc full of lower leagues players. It's all well and good boasting that a player only cost us 1m or 2m, but too often these are players who have demonstrated exactly why they only cost that much.

Still, they persist in this belief that, really, all you need to do is wait for these players to "bed in", for the youngsters to get a bit older, and turn into really good players.

It is absolute fucking nonsense. Paying big wages to a player is no guarantee of success, but paying low wages to a squad full of lower league players means almost guarantees you'll have no success.

Look at some of the absolute dross we've been playing. Luna, FFS, Tonev, who looks utterly out of place. Why is Weimann getting played week in, week out? I just read something on the Evening Mail website where Lambert - this week - was saying Nathan Baker has been "a big player for us this season".

Really? It must be a different Nathan Baker he's thinking of, because the one I see has been fucking rubbish, week in, week out.

The whole upper echelon of the club are absolutely deluding themselves. Randy can sit in Cleveland, or New York, or wherever he is today (obviously, we know where he won't be), and tell himself that they've hit upon a master plan all he likes, but the evidence is that we are failing even to stand still, we are going backwards.

It all takes a certain arrogance - if it was really just a matter of buying kids and waiting for them to click, don't they think *everyone* would be doing this? It hasn't work, it isn't working now, and it will not work.

I just hope that at some point very, very soon, one of them pulls his head out of the fucking sand and does something, because the whole thing is a depressing mess at the moment.

I dont give the first shit that we are 11th right now. That's not the point. Look at the gap between us and the arse end of the table, and look at where the on-field momentum suggests we are heading. We've got Arsenal and Liverpool next, two sides who play actual football. Where do we think we are going to be after that?

The whole situation is a mess, and the people responsible for it should be ashamed of the laughable disaster they've turned this club into in the last three or four years.

Top ranting & you're right it's the sheer arrogance of it all, the 'we'll be fine' comments week in week out, will we?  Really?  Is that what you think this is all about, being fine? 

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #889 on: January 04, 2014, 08:32:21 PM »
Hallelujah. Let us hope someone somewhere with some authority at the villa sees sense before it is too late.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #890 on: January 04, 2014, 08:33:35 PM »
Hallelujah. Let us hope someone somewhere with some authority at the villa sees sense before it is too late.
They won't

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #891 on: January 04, 2014, 08:33:49 PM »
It's negative because we have been presented with a seemingly endless sequence of negatives.

Worst home record over *three years* of any team in and of the top five European leagues.
6 home wins in 26
Etc etc etc

I can't be bothered to list them, but the point is, no matter how much you support Lambert - and I have - as Bren said in his post earlier, it is really, really hard to accept the flow of dreadful records that Lambert has broken in his tenure and just carry on as if everything is OK.

In less than two years:

made to look absolute fucking chumps (and tactically taken to the cleaners on our own pitch) by FOURTH DIVISION Bradford City
Knocked out of the FA Cup with barely a whimper by Milwall
Played off our own park by a team *50* places below us today.

Then try looking at our midfield options four years ago, and look at them today. Look at the squad.

At the top of the club management is Randy, and below him Paul Faulkner, and the way they have mismanaged this club is staggering, into huge amounts of debt, relegation struggles, and a squad that belongs about halfway up the championship.

Enough is enough, something has got to change.

Offline levico

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #892 on: January 04, 2014, 08:35:23 PM »
I agree that nothing will happen at the club following today's result - doubt if Lerner I'd even aware of it yet let alone understand Villa fans love of the FAC.

However, take a look at the next four fixtures - Arsenal, Liverpool, WBA and Everton. I'm absolutely certain that we will lose heavily to all except WBA and we'll probably lose to Albion as well, albeit marginely.

Sure following that sequence of results even Lerner will be forced to act?

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #893 on: January 04, 2014, 08:35:35 PM »
It's negative because we have been presented with a seemingly endless sequence of negatives.

Worst home record over *three years* of any team in and of the top five European leagues.
6 home wins in 26
Etc etc etc

I can't be bothered to list them, but the point is, no matter how much you support Lambert - and I have - as Bren said in his post earlier, it is really, really hard to accept the flow of dreadful records that Lambert has broken in his tenure and just carry on as if everything is OK.

In less than two years:

made to look absolute fucking chumps (and tactically taken to the cleaners on our own pitch) by FOURTH DIVISION Bradford City
Knocked out of the FA Cup with barely a whimper by Milwall
Played off our own park by a team *50* places below us today.

Then try looking at our midfield options four years ago, and look at them today. Look at the squad.

At the top of the club management is Randy, and below him Paul Faulkner, and the way they have mismanaged this club is staggering, into huge amounts of debt, relegation struggles, and a squad that belongs about halfway up the championship.

Enough is enough, something has got to change.

Please stop making so much sense. It's depressing me even more.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #894 on: January 04, 2014, 08:38:05 PM »
Paulie, you're right, but never more than when you say that nothing will change becuase the fools in charge genuinely believe this will work.

Offline Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #895 on: January 04, 2014, 08:38:20 PM »
I think the problem is obvious.

We can win when we have 25-35% possession - like Southampton and Sunderland.

Today with 65% against a team from the 3rd division who couldn't beat Walsall the other day - we just had not got a clue what to do. Apart from getting it to Albrighton who actually tried to take them on - but his crossing was poor.

Who is it that tells them what to do - Lambert, the coaches, the onfield captain - none of them have a bloody clue. Passing it between the back 4 all day will not win games.

We've been very lucky not to have been hammered by teams to have dominated possession. Man City, Swansea, Southampton, it's not through our good play, just fortune.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #896 on: January 04, 2014, 08:42:01 PM »
After today there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that whatever the budget/project situation is Lambert isn't good enough.

We need to change manager and preferably design a new project because otherwise we will just sink slowly towards oblivion.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #897 on: January 04, 2014, 08:42:26 PM »
Randy needs to appoint a new Project Manager. I fucking hate Lambert.

Agree x 100.

I'm thoroughly sick of this shit.  The embarrassments that are stacking up under his tenure are unbearable. We deserve better than this.   

He's not going to sack him, though.

Lambert has bought into the project, Lerner and Faulkner think the project is viable, and that's the problem.

Honestly, it beggars belief. What you need to do is get rid of almost every one of the high earning players. Then, you replace them with kids from the youth team, or players from the lower leagues in this country or selling leagues in Europe.

So, we have a manageable wage bill, but we also have a squad choc full of lower leagues players. It's all well and good boasting that a player only cost us 1m or 2m, but too often these are players who have demonstrated exactly why they only cost that much.

Still, they persist in this belief that, really, all you need to do is wait for these players to "bed in", for the youngsters to get a bit older, and turn into really good players.

It is absolute fucking nonsense. Paying big wages to a player is no guarantee of success, but paying low wages to a squad full of lower league players almost guarantees you'll have no success.

Look at some of the absolute dross we've been playing. Luna, FFS, Tonev, who looks utterly out of place. Why is Weimann getting played week in, week out? I just read something on the Evening Mail website where Lambert - this week - was saying Nathan Baker has been "a big player for us this season".

Really? It must be a different Nathan Baker he's thinking of, because the one I see has been fucking rubbish, week in, week out.

The whole upper echelon of the club are absolutely deluding themselves. Randy can sit in Cleveland, or New York, or wherever he is today (obviously, we know where he won't be), and tell himself that they've hit upon a master plan all he likes, but the evidence is that we are failing even to stand still, we are going backwards.

It all takes a certain arrogance - if it was really just a matter of buying kids and waiting for them to click, don't they think *everyone* would be doing this? It hasn't worked, it isn't working now, and it will not work.

I just hope that at some point very, very soon, one of them pulls his head out of the fucking sand and does something, because the whole thing is a depressing mess at the moment.

I don't give the first shit that we are 11th right now. That's not the point. Look at the gap between us and the arse end of the table, and look at where the on-field momentum suggests we are heading. We've got Arsenal and Liverpool next, two sides who play actual football. Where do we think we are going to be after that?

The whole situation is a mess, and the people responsible for it should be ashamed of the laughable disaster they've turned this club into in the last three or four years.

Thanks paulie, you've saved me the time writing what I meant to say.  The "project" is a sham, it's basis consists of nothing but wishful thinking.  Carry on with the project and we really are heading into the abyss. A change of plan is required and that starts with getting rid of this clown. 

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #898 on: January 04, 2014, 08:50:29 PM »
The big problem is the owner and the people he has surrounded himself with. Not one of them knows anything about football, and in their ignorance and arrogance, they have neglected to appoint anybody who knows anything about football.

This is a football club, not a credit card company. Not only have they got their strategy badly wrong, but they can't see what's around the corner, when most people who know the game can see a raging, snorting locomotive coming straight at us. It's coming fast and if we want to avoid the train crash, we're going to have to change track, and bloody quick.

The really depressing thing about all this is that, even if we did sack Lambert, our board hasn't got a clue how to go about getting a suitable replacement. Lerner hasn't got the stomach for another drawn-out and humiliating appointment saga.

Lerner should either sell up to the best possible people, or secure significant outside investment and enlist a football man to take the club by the scruff of the neck. He has to wake up and stop the rot immediately.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #899 on: January 04, 2014, 08:51:47 PM »
Paulie, you're right, but never more than when you say that nothing will change becuase the fools in charge genuinely believe this will work.

They do, and that is the scary bit.

As Bren just said, it's not a project, it is just incredibly wishful thinking.


 


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