How would you feel....

[phantom limb]

We need stability, I don't think sacking managers every time we hit a bad patch is going to help. I agree that he needs cash in January though otherwise it could get pretty scary.

[pauliewalnuts]

The winnable matches:

Stoke (lost 2-1)
Fulham (lost 2-0)
Sunderland (drew 0-0)
Albion (drew 2-2)
Cardiff (won 2-0)
West Ham (drew 0-0)
Hull (drew 0-0)

So, 7 points out of 21. 5 goals in 7 matches.

Against that, we somehow managed to squeeze out a win at Southampton whilst touching the ball about five times all night, but really, I start to get a bit worried when I see winnable games so frequently not getting won.

[ozzjim]

The winnable matches:

Stoke (lost 2-1)
Fulham (lost 2-0)
Sunderland (drew 0-0)
Albion (drew 2-2)
Cardiff (won 2-0)
West Ham (drew 0-0)
Hull (drew 0-0)

So, 7 points out of 21. 5 goals in 7 matches.

Against that, we somehow managed to squeeze out a win at Southampton whilst touching the ball about five times all night, but really, I start to get a bit worried when I see winnable games so frequently not getting won.

From that lot, you would have thought 3 wins was needed as a minimum.

Things could get tight, more so than last season without funds and good signings in Jan.

[supertom]

We need stability, I don't think sacking managers every time we hit a bad patch is going to help. I agree that he needs cash in January though otherwise it could get pretty scary.

I don't see Lambert ever having a really good patch though. I don't see him being able to outsmart another manager or send out a side that looks like they know what they're doing. I'm all for giving time, but I don't think Lambert is the man. He's not going to take to having an experienced assistant (as tactician), or D.O.F for example. He's too much like O Neill, he wants full control.

Unless he can do something significant in January, and get proven quality, and also get someone with a brain on his coaching staff to help out our midfield and attack, then he's only taking us in one direction. The Championship. It would be a matter of time. This season there's enough dross to keep us up, but next season, minus Benteke, who knows?

[pauliewalnuts]

I'm sure we'll go on to win some matches we're not expected to, so I am not damning us yet, I am a bit worried, though, at our reluctance to win games at the moment, especially when you'd expect us to win.

[supertom]

I'm sure we'll go on to win some matches we're not expected to, so I am not damning us yet, I am a bit worried, though, at our reluctance to win games at the moment, especially when you'd expect us to win.

My view on Lambert is that we could easily go on a 5-10 game losing streak.
However we'll struggle to ever win 3 on the spin.

Those aren't good odds, and the way we're playing at the moment, I could honestly see us seeing out the rest of this year without another point.
We'll be fighting for our lives again this season I think. Barring some genuine quality signings in January.

[Legion]

[supertom]

If you put that on a certain other thread, you'll win the thread with that one.

[levico]

I said I would see out the next four winnable games before deciding whether I should support the Lambert out contingent.

I'll stick with that although after today's performance, I need to revise my opinion of what is a winnable game. Not sure that even Palace come under that category now.

[supertom]

I said I would see out the next four winnable games before deciding whether I should support the Lambert out contingent.

I'll stick with that although after today's performance, I need to revise my opinion of what is a winnable game. Not sure that even Palace come under that category now.

I think we saw today how much we struggle against physical sides with a bit of nous. Pulis will have them well drilled to wind us up and try an intimidate us. We might be lucky and have Vlaar back, but even then, that doesn't help us scoring goals.
Swansea are in a reasonable run of form too, and I suspect they'll give us a footballing lesson.

[aev]

I watched the Fulham and Man Utd games and for me the worrying thing is the manner of the defeats, and from what I have read today's game was just as bad.

I wanted PL as manager but I am really struggling to see where the progress is…there seems to be a lack of passion or belief in the team which is something that the manager should be able to provide.

[ez]

The winnable matches:

Stoke (lost 2-1)
Fulham (lost 2-0)
Sunderland (drew 0-0)
Albion (drew 2-2)
Cardiff (won 2-0)
West Ham (drew 0-0)
Hull (drew 0-0)

So, 7 points out of 21. 5 goals in 7 matches.

Against that, we somehow managed to squeeze out a win at Southampton whilst touching the ball about five times all night, but really, I start to get a bit worried when I see winnable games so frequently not getting won.

Really they turned out to be drawable games.

[supertom]

I watched the Fulham and Man Utd games and for me the worrying thing is the manner of the defeats, and from what I have read today's game was just as bad.

I wanted PL as manager but I am really struggling to see where the progress is…there seems to be a lack of passion or belief in the team which is something that the manager should be able to provide.

It concerns me the lack of answers Lambert has to questions asked of him and his side. Things happen in matches and if he actually takes decisive action, most times it's the wrong decision. Hughes changed the game with Adam. Lambert bought on Bowery. What tactical question is ever asked where Bowery would be the answer? I'm at a total loss on that one.

[andyh]

I said I would see out the next four winnable games before deciding whether I should support the Lambert out contingent.

I'll stick with that although after today's performance, I need to revise my opinion of what is a winnable game. Not sure that even Palace come under that category now.

Can someone explain what 'winnable games' means.
For about 3 years people keep saying 'the next few winnable games' but I don't know what that means.
I don't recall us going on a run of 3  or 4 wins on the bounce for many years.
Why is now any different ?

[pooligan]

What worries me most is when Lambert came on after the game today and says he thought we were excellent  in the first half and did not deserve to lose and his normal" the lads never gave up "I really think he believes it