How would you feel....

[sirlordbaltimore]

We need to build and plan for the future which is precisely what's happening.

Ok, what exactly are we building ?. That's what I want to know anyway.

A team of youngish players on the cheap?, yes I can see that.

But what good is that if overall they're not good enough and the style of football is dire ?

What exactly is the plan for the future ?

[not3bad]

I really wish I hadn't opened this thread. I've only read the first page and frankly it's an embarrassing read.

I know people want immediate success but it was never going to be realistic with what we've got. We need to build and plan for the future which is precisely what's happening. With the way football seems to be going and even the top clubs shipping 5 or 6 goals against each other, it's going to happen.

Our players and manager need continued support.

I'm sorry but there's no excuse for the shit performances we've had to watch recently.

New players getting used to this league, other players suffering second season syndrome, injuries/suspensions to further players - all meaning there has been no settled lineup this season.  You may not find these reasons acceptable but to say there are no excuses isn't actually true.

[dave.woodhall]

We need to build and plan for the future which is precisely what's happening.

Ok, what exactly are we building ?. That's what I want to know anyway.

A team of youngish players on the cheap?, yes I can see that.

But what good is that if overall they're not good enough and the style of football is dire ?

What exactly is the plan for the future ?

To improve year on year. So far it's working.

[BoskoDjembaSalifou]

I really wish I hadn't opened this thread. I've only read the first page and frankly it's an embarrassing read.

I know people want immediate success but it was never going to be realistic with what we've got. We need to build and plan for the future which is precisely what's happening. With the way football seems to be going and even the top clubs shipping 5 or 6 goals against each other, it's going to happen.

Our players and manager need continued support.

I'm sorry but there's no excuse for the shit performances we've had to watch recently.

New players getting used to this league, other players suffering second season syndrome, injuries/suspensions to further players - all meaning there has been no settled lineup this season.  You may not find these reasons acceptable but to say there are no excuses isn't actually true.

I can understand the first two to a certain extent. Injuries and suspensions happen to every team though.

I just want to see us actually resemble a football team.

[Meanwood Villa]

I just want to see us actually resemble a football team.

I'm supportive of Lambert, don't want to see him sacked and really hope he becomes a success here but the above sums up how I have felt watching the last 2 "performances". A semblance of competence wouldn't go amiss surely. I go to Stoke tomorrow in hope.

[eastie]

I thought

the signs were good as we looked a really good team to watch and were picking up points and results from feb onwards but this season  2 or 3 players have kicked on and improved whereas quite a few more have failed to match the standard of last season.

Vlaar, Delph and Clark have all looked much better this season .
Lowton, gabby, Weimann, Westwood, sylla, benteke have underperformed.
We need those players back on form sooner rather than later.

[paul_e]

I really wish I hadn't opened this thread. I've only read the first page and frankly it's an embarrassing read.

I know people want immediate success but it was never going to be realistic with what we've got. We need to build and plan for the future which is precisely what's happening. With the way football seems to be going and even the top clubs shipping 5 or 6 goals against each other, it's going to happen.

Our players and manager need continued support.

I'm sorry but there's no excuse for the shit performances we've had to watch recently.

New players getting used to this league, other players suffering second season syndrome, injuries/suspensions to further players - all meaning there has been no settled lineup this season.  You may not find these reasons acceptable but to say there are no excuses isn't actually true.

I can understand the first two to a certain extent. Injuries and suspensions happen to every team though.

I just want to see us actually resemble a football team.

Injuries and suspension do happen to every team, and I suspect any team in the league with 4-5 defenders out injured at the same time would have a bit of a rough time of it.

[BoskoDjembaSalifou]

We have 4-5 defenders injured? Vlaar and Okore are the main two. Bennett is injured too but he's not a huge loss compared to Vlaar/Okore. Can't think of anyone else.

[MoetVillan]

Lowton and Baker have both had issues this season.  Health wise I meant

[Clampy]

BoskoDjembaSalifou and his now daily whinge of all things crap. We're 11th.

[BoskoDjembaSalifou]

BoskoDjembaSalifou and his now daily whinge of all things crap. We're 11th.

I take it you're satisfied with our recent performances?

[Clampy]

BoskoDjembaSalifou and his now daily whinge of all things crap. We're 11th.

I take it you're satisfied with our recent performances?

No, not really but coming on here whinging about it every day is not going to help.

[pauliewalnuts]

We need to build and plan for the future which is precisely what's happening.

Ok, what exactly are we building ?. That's what I want to know anyway.

A team of youngish players on the cheap?, yes I can see that.

But what good is that if overall they're not good enough and the style of football is dire ?

What exactly is the plan for the future ?

To improve year on year. So far it's working.

Bit early to say that, surely? He's had one full season, and it's too early to judge this season.

I am not too sure improving every year per se is enough, anyway. 16th then 15th then 14th then 13th, for example, isn't going to win anyone over.

I think really there needs to be a decent chunk of evidence on the pitch that we're starting to play a bit more. We had that in spells last year, this year it has been far harder to spot, hence people tending to be less happy.

I don't necessarily agree with the extent to which some will take it - declaring us as good as down is as daft as declaring us as on for a top half finish at this point - but it is really hard to look at our last dozen matches plus and take much heart from the quality of play on offer.

It's hard to blame anyone for finding that a bit depressing.

[BoskoDjembaSalifou]

BoskoDjembaSalifou and his now daily whinge of all things crap. We're 11th.

I take it you're satisfied with our recent performances?

No, not really but coming on here whinging about it every day is not going to help.

Isn't a forum a place where you're meant to discuss things?

[dave.woodhall]

BoskoDjembaSalifou and his now daily whinge of all things crap. We're 11th.

I take it you're satisfied with our recent performances?

No, not really but coming on here whinging about it every day is not going to help.

Isn't a forum a place where you're meant to discuss things?

As someone said to me back in the early days of H&V, "if you moan about everything you lose all credibility."