How would you feel....

[exiled on the wirral!]

Winnable games makes me smile. I'm not sure what a winnable game is anymore.

Yes just think of the nil nil against Sunderland.

3-1 against Arsenal, 3-2 against champions-elect Manchester City

[eric woolban woolban]

Personally in the current situation if we did get rid of Lambert we wouldnt be able to replace him with anyone better..and a new manager with such a young squad at his disposal would struggle to keep us up.

I think you're half right. We all thought Southampton were mad last season when they sacked Adkins in January but they managed to find a better manager. Hopefully we could do the same. The real issue as you've stated is how a new manager and our young squad get on. Even though there's half a season to go, it's risky business.

Yes but Southampton have got more than the talented youngsters they have brought through. Osvaldo cost £13 million, so did wanjama and the loose change of £9 million went on Lovren. Another club fans think we are similar to but we aren't are we?

A club not too long ago were in administration in league one.

We need new investment.

[exiled on the wirral!]

Personally in the current situation if we did get rid of Lambert we wouldnt be able to replace him with anyone better..and a new manager with such a young squad at his disposal would struggle to keep us up.

I think you're half right. We all thought Southampton were mad last season when they sacked Adkins in January but they managed to find a better manager. Hopefully we could do the same. The real issue as you've stated is how a new manager and our young squad get on. Even though there's half a season to go, it's risky business.

Yes but Southampton have got more than the talented youngsters they have brought through. Osvaldo cost £13 million, so did wanjama and the loose change of £9 million went on Lovren. Another club fans think we are similar to but we aren't are we?

A club not too long ago were in administration in league one.

We need new investment.

So we need a new owner, not another new manager then?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Personally in the current situation if we did get rid of Lambert we wouldnt be able to replace him with anyone better..and a new manager with such a young squad at his disposal would struggle to keep us up.

I think you're half right. We all thought Southampton were mad last season when they sacked Adkins in January but they managed to find a better manager. Hopefully we could do the same. The real issue as you've stated is how a new manager and our young squad get on. Even though there's half a season to go, it's risky business.

Yes but Southampton have got more than the talented youngsters they have brought through. Osvaldo cost £13 million, so did wanjama and the loose change of £9 million went on Lovren. Another club fans think we are similar to but we aren't are we?

You're missing the point. Southampton had just been promoted and in January they sacked Nigel Adkins despite him being responsible for consecutive promotions. They managed to find a better manager. The fact they backed him in the summer is neither here nor there.

[PeterWithesShin]

Sometimes sacking a manager works, often it doesn't. How did it work out for QPR and Reading? Sunderland don't seem to be doing too well either. Wolves sacking McCarthy was a masterstroke. It has worked a treat for Southampton, so far.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Sometimes sacking a manager works, often it doesn't. How did it work out for QPR and Reading? Sunderland don't seem to be doing too well either. Wolves sacking McCarthy was a masterstroke. It has worked a treat for Southampton, so far.

I guess the real question is could we rely on the Villa board to find a better manager than Lambert?

***runs off***

[walsall villain]

A club not too long ago were in administration in league one.

We need new investment.
[/quote]So we need a new owner, not another new manager then?
[/quote]

Well we need to bring young players through, we need to spot up and coming talent from here and abroad but to avoid a perennial struggle, yes, we do need to invest. Others have already said it seems we might be prepared to spend on transfers but not on excessive wages. Hopefully they can find a solution to all this. Mind you, I do find perverse pleasure in big spending Spurs struggling to get it right.

[Damo70]

Changing manager usually works better if you provide money for new signings like Southampton or have a squad already in place like Spurs. I'm not sure we meet either of those criteria.

[walsall villain]

Sometimes sacking a manager works, often it doesn't. How did it work out for QPR and Reading? Sunderland don't seem to be doing too well either. Wolves sacking McCarthy was a masterstroke. It has worked a treat for Southampton, so far.

I guess the real question is could we rely on the Villa board to find a better manager than Lambert?

***runs off***

Not sure whether they roll dice or throw darts at pictures on a board. Answer to your question, NO.

[Dave]

Sometimes sacking a manager works, often it doesn't. How did it work out for QPR and Reading? Sunderland don't seem to be doing too well either. Wolves sacking McCarthy was a masterstroke. It has worked a treat for Southampton, so far.

I guess the real question is could we rely on the Villa board to find a better manager than Lambert?

***runs off***

I think that's always the most important question. I remember raising it in about 2008 when getting rid of O'Neill was a popular idea and they expected that Mourinho or Hiddink would be the next people through the door.

Lambert's got his flaws, but out of the people they've had to hire so far he's probably the one with the fewest.

[sirlordbaltimore]

The question has been asked of his supporters.

Let them respond to that question.

It's pointless. You've made your mind up. It doesn't matter what anyone says now you won't listen!

You say that, but i'd still like to hear any footballing reasons to keep him on

[paulcomben]

I still support the Lambo plan for the time being. Steve Clarke with Zola together, though... Mmmm. Tempting? Nope! They failed at West Ham.

[Mazrim]

I'm of the opinion we need a new start from top to bottom but I'm not holding my breath. We don't seem to make any smart moves any more. There doesn't seem to be any ambition or plan apart from treading water with as little expenditure as possible. Which for a club our size is a bit disappointing.

I personally feel the board feel we can't compete at anything like the top so won't try, the manager is regressing alarmingly. We look a shadow of the team we ended last season with. No energy or composure or determination. Very few ideas and a lot of tentative nervous play I thought we'd left behind during McLeish's era and the first half of last season. There's no appetite to keep the ball, to dominate even the lowliest teams and worst of all, there's a huge amount of naivety and stupidity in our play.

It's not all bad but it's not really going anywhere. Yes, we've lost some key players but that's not the reason we've fallen of a cliff. Nor can I offer any suggestions as to what exactly has happened but I'm sure something has. Something isn't right behind the scenes.

I don't want to watch the kind of football we play at the moment. It's nothing short of horrible. I'm not calling for the managers head but as things stand I wouldn't mind if he was to go. I rate Clarke and the kind of football he plays but I'm not sure he'd get any more backing here than he did at West Brom so don't see much point in it.

So I know I sound like a spoilt brat but I don't care. I want to watch some compelling football again and some positive direction from the board. That needs to happen whoever us calling the shots. We're all sick of the shite served up at Villa Park I'm sure. It should be a fortress not a help yourself buffet.

[eastie]

I'm of the opinion we need a new start from top to bottom but I'm not holding my breath. We don't seem to make any smart moves any more. There doesn't seem to be any ambition or plan apart from treading water with as little expenditure as possible. Which for a club our size is a bit disappointing.

I personally feel the board feel we can't compete at anything like the top so won't try, the manager is regressing alarmingly. We look a shadow of the team we ended last season with. No energy or composure or determination. Very few ideas and a lot of tentative nervous play I thought we'd left behind during McLeish's era and the first half of last season. There's no appetite to keep the ball, to dominate even the lowliest teams and worst of all, there's a huge amount of naivety and stupidity in our play.

It's not all bad but it's not really going anywhere. Yes, we've lost some key players but that's not the reason we've fallen of a cliff. Nor can I offer any suggestions as to what exactly has happened but I'm sure something has. Something isn't right behind the scenes.

I don't want to watch the kind of football we play at the moment. It's nothing short of horrible. I'm not calling for the managers head but as things stand I wouldn't mind if he was to go. I rate Clarke and the kind of football he plays but I'm not sure he'd get any more backing here than he did at West Brom so don't see much point in it.

So I know I sound like a spoilt brat but I don't care. I want to watch some compelling football again and some positive direction from the board. That needs to happen whoever us calling the shots. We're all sick of the shite served up at Villa Park I'm sure. It should be a fortress not a help yourself buffet.

Good post maz .

[olaftab]

I just clicked on this thread to find it is about sack or to keep Lambert. I find it incredible that people are asking this question. Sack him and do what? Start again and waste more millions? Start with another squad building expedition? One sure way to get relegated is to keep changing managers.