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Offline German James

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #105 on: December 15, 2013, 05:38:09 PM »
Has anyone come up with a reason yet for keeping him other than who else is there and theres no money anyway?

You say that as if they weren't valid reasons for not sacking him: unfortunately they are!

As far as I'm concerned, I have to give him the benefit of the doubt until the summer: sacking him now would be cause too much upheaval and the above reasons for not doing so come into play. We are also 11th in the league, so what's the panic?

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #106 on: December 15, 2013, 05:38:51 PM »
Hold him by the ankles from the roof of the Holte End and shake him all about. Things aren't desperate just yet, but he needs to feel some danger. It's all too comfortable.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #107 on: December 15, 2013, 05:39:24 PM »
Let's see what the next few results and performances bring plus any changes in January. I think he is here for the long-term.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #108 on: December 15, 2013, 05:39:50 PM »
I don't vote out because I don't currently want him out. I like us buying inexperienced players that could prove to be world beaters rather than players like Beye, Collins, Heskey, Steve Stone etc etc. He does however need to buy the odd player who is experienced and can help the kids. So I vote shake him all about.

Some of our play and goals under him have been the best i've seen since the mid 90's, some of the football and lack of goals is truly abysmal. Shake him all about!

Constantly changing managers also isn't going to help. Neither is keeping the wrong one. Shake him all about again like a magic 8 ball to see if he is worth sticking with long term.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #109 on: December 15, 2013, 05:43:50 PM »
Hold him by the ankles from the roof of the Holte End and shake him all about. Things aren't desperate just yet, but he needs to feel some danger. It's all too comfortable.

Good point.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #110 on: December 15, 2013, 05:44:40 PM »
I like us buying inexperienced players that could prove to be world beaters rather than players like Beye, Collins, Heskey, Steve Stone etc etc.
I'd like us buying anyone rather than players like Beye, Collins, Heskey, Stone etc.  But which of Lambert's signings do you really think will prove to be world beaters?

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #111 on: December 15, 2013, 05:46:32 PM »
Hold him by the ankles from the roof of the Holte End and shake him all about. Things aren't desperate just yet, but he needs to feel some danger. It's all too comfortable.

I don't think it's too comfortable for him, certainly not from the board. They won't allow him to continue should there be a real lapse in fans not renewing season tickets. Where it is comfortable for him is with the fans. Too many are more than willing to suffer shite football providing we win. You only have to look on here this season or look back to the MON years to see how comfortable we make it for Villa managers. Expectations are extremely low for a club our size. Why? I have no idea.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2013, 05:50:14 PM by Rudy Lambert »

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #112 on: December 15, 2013, 05:47:48 PM »
I've voted shake him all about.
He needs to feel some heat, not abuse, constructive criticism and turn this around quickly and the next 4 games are ideal for that, so off you trot Lambert, earn your crust.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #113 on: December 15, 2013, 05:48:41 PM »
I like us buying inexperienced players that could prove to be world beaters rather than players like Beye, Collins, Heskey, Steve Stone etc etc.
I'd like us buying anyone rather than players like Beye, Collins, Heskey, Stone etc.  But which of Lambert's signings do you really think will prove to be world beaters?

 The problem for me is he has bought 17 players in all of whom have never played in the premier league - you need a blend of youth and experience and the lack of experience at this level concerns me - I'd have like a couple of older heads to help the younger lads out .

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #114 on: December 15, 2013, 05:51:38 PM »
Out for the obvious reasons.

Has anyone come up with a reason yet for keeping him other than who else is there and theres no money anyway?

I asked that question on Page 2, so far nobody.

Sure I will take a shot.

Tactically modern and flexible. Lambert has changed our formation many many times and will continue to do so. Remember how we played versus Westham opening game last season? Then all the different formations we have used. That is a strength to my mind. Lambert is always tinkering, the nicest compliment anyone has given us this season was Gus Poyet who noted, he found it hard to prepare for us because you never how how we will play.

Good in the transfer market. Lambert does not buy over valued Premier League offcasts. He goes younger lower league or overseas lower leagues. Thats smart and much more likely to get you players you can develop.

Finally Lambert has taken some nice high profile scalps so far and we have every reason to expect more. Yeah we just got beaten by Manchester United again. Oh well, shit happens they spend a lot more money than us and are always likely to win. But I take great delight in beating Arsenal and Man City this season. I hope for more to come.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #115 on: December 15, 2013, 05:52:56 PM »
I like us buying inexperienced players that could prove to be world beaters rather than players like Beye, Collins, Heskey, Steve Stone etc etc.
I'd like us buying anyone rather than players like Beye, Collins, Heskey, Stone etc.  But which of Lambert's signings do you really think will prove to be world beaters?
Benteke could be one, but needs a massive boot up his arse.

If the most you can spend is around the £5-7million mark for any one player and you are on a strict wage budget because you still have highly paid wasters hanging around or on loan then you have to be very, very lucky to chance upon a world beater who will fit those constraints.
These days there is less chance of a David Platt coming through the ranks of a lower club and becoming a superstar than ever because the Premier League academies already have all the talented kids, and most of those that might make it often fall by the wayside because of lack of opportunities in the first teams because buying an average but "ready to play" foreign player is seen as less of a risk than blooding a youngster.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #116 on: December 15, 2013, 05:53:27 PM »
I don't necessarily think he should be sacked yet but I wouldn't be upset if he was. I'm having doubts as to whether he's up to the job. When you look at some other managers who have joined a club and set about improving them (Martinez, Rodgers, Pochettino) then look at us since Lambert joined and there hasn't been much improvement at all. He's had time and bought plenty of players - this is very definitely his squad now - but we can barely string four passes together and only know how to play on the counter. The points to games ratio must be pretty sorry reading.

I expected more than this by now.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #117 on: December 15, 2013, 05:54:03 PM »
I like us buying inexperienced players that could prove to be world beaters rather than players like Beye, Collins, Heskey, Steve Stone etc etc.
I'd like us buying anyone rather than players like Beye, Collins, Heskey, Stone etc.  But which of Lambert's signings do you really think will prove to be world beaters?

I said could be. Doesn't mean they are or will be.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #118 on: December 15, 2013, 05:54:07 PM »
Ciggiesnbeer, this is not the time to be taking the piss.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #119 on: December 15, 2013, 05:56:31 PM »
Hold him by the ankles from the roof of the Holte End and shake him all about. Things aren't desperate just yet, but he needs to feel some danger. It's all too comfortable.
This could be a good solution. I like it a lot.

 


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