Brigada Corner

[dave.woodhall]

No advantage or reason? You run the biggest Villa forum on the net.

Which makes no difference whatsoever. If a club that since 2006 has pretty much written the rulebook on being supporter-friendly has suddenly turned into the Wicked Stepmother they're not going to bother making up stories to all & sundry about their stewarding policy.

Dave you edit a Villa Fanzine sit there during the next game and you tell everyone exactly what happens there except for persistent standing and lots of singing, you have the contacts to get there there will be a few empty seats now.

What?

[MonsXI]

No advantage or reason? You run the biggest Villa forum on the net.

Which makes no difference whatsoever. If a club that since 2006 has pretty much written the rulebook on being supporter-friendly has suddenly turned into the Wicked Stepmother they're not going to bother making up stories to all & sundry about their stewarding policy.

Dave you edit a Villa Fanzine sit there during the next game and you tell everyone exactly what happens there except for persistent standing and lots of singing, you have the contacts to get there there will be a few empty seats now.

What?

Spend the Newcastle game in L8 and you can see for your own eyes exactly what goes on, theres certainly nothing ever happened that would warrant a police enquiry.

[dave.woodhall]

No advantage or reason? You run the biggest Villa forum on the net.

Which makes no difference whatsoever. If a club that since 2006 has pretty much written the rulebook on being supporter-friendly has suddenly turned into the Wicked Stepmother they're not going to bother making up stories to all & sundry about their stewarding policy.

Dave you edit a Villa Fanzine sit there during the next game and you tell everyone exactly what happens there except for persistent standing and lots of singing, you have the contacts to get there there will be a few empty seats now.

What?

Spend the Newcastle game in L8 and you can see for your own eyes exactly what goes on, theres certainly nothing ever happened that would warrant a police enquiry.

After Rotherham that would probably be the wrong game to go in there as the situation will be different. However, I've had an idea...

[bertlambshank]

I spent 2 of the cup games in L8 last season,harmless fun is the best to describe it.Just some young lads getting behind our team.

[MonsXI]

No advantage or reason? You run the biggest Villa forum on the net.

Which makes no difference whatsoever. If a club that since 2006 has pretty much written the rulebook on being supporter-friendly has suddenly turned into the Wicked Stepmother they're not going to bother making up stories to all & sundry about their stewarding policy.

Dave you edit a Villa Fanzine sit there during the next game and you tell everyone exactly what happens there except for persistent standing and lots of singing, you have the contacts to get there there will be a few empty seats now.

What?

Spend the Newcastle game in L8 and you can see for your own eyes exactly what goes on, theres certainly nothing ever happened that would warrant a police enquiry.

After Rotherham that would probably be the wrong game to go in there as the situation will be different. However, I've had an idea...

Good point!

Let me know the idea either on here or via pm

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Oh right ? Well rather than "change the record" I will answer the question.

Of course I'd be gutted if my area of the ground were closed by BCC. However if it were closed due to a bunch of lads doing their level best to support the team via singing clapping and trying to get some atmosphere going I would come down on the side of said support - in this case Brigada.

The club as I've said have let themselves down again .

How have thge club let themselves down?  I really don't understand why 2-3 people seem determined to demonise the club here.

Fuck me not again the targeting of certain people for standing.There was a lot more people standing in other areas of the ground and nothing was done to them.

Once more, please read carefully:

NO ONE ELSE in the ground is affiliated to a group that states they will stand all game, if this is purely about standing and they were targeted then it happened because they painted (in eye bleeding blue on their website) a big target on themselves.

Do you not understand that stating publicly that you're going to ignore a rule makes it really easy for you to be punished for ignoring the rule.

What about the people who aren't Brigada and sit in L8 but have to stand to see,do you throw them out and ban them as well?

What part of my post makes you think I see them thrown out or banned?  Surely I've made it clear enough now that I'm of the opinion that if you want to show that you care about stopping people standing you target people who state they are going to stand all game.  I really don't get how this is confusing you. 

I have a little experiment for you, go in to A supermarket and tell someone you're going to steal something, see what happens if you then try to get on with shopping and slip a chocolate bar into your pocket.  It's pretty much the same principle, if you're going to make a big deal about ignoring the rules don't be surprised if someone is upset about you ignoring the rules, it really is pretty basic logic.

And if the supermarket turns a blind eye, every week, to customers slipping chocolate bars into their pockets but then singles out one specific group on one occasion who do, isn't that total bollox and no pretty basic logic at all?

[paul_e]

When you hear the beep it's time for Dale's supermarket Sweep.You just don't get it at all.

OK...

What am i not getting?  Please explain.

As Dave has said there is more to it, but the point still stands if you make a principle of breaking a rule you will eventually get told off for breaking it.  I really dont understand why you think the club is in the wrong here, that you've persisted in wanting to know why they were 'targeted' for about 10 pages despite me repeatedly explaining that they made themselves a target.  Worse you're trying to make out that it's me who's lost the plot.  I really don't understand what you're now arguing about.  I made up a ridiculous scenario in the hope of it making some headway with you but I give up.

I'm sure someone on here has a signature about arguing with people like this.

[bertlambshank]

When you hear the beep it's time for Dale's supermarket Sweep.You just don't get it at all.

OK...

What am i not getting?  Please explain.

As Dave has said there is more to it, but the point still stands if you make a principle of breaking a rule you will eventually get told off for breaking it.  I really dont understand why you think the club is in the wrong here, that you've persisted in wanting to know why they were 'targeted' for about 10 pages despite me repeatedly explaining that they made themselves a target.  Worse you're trying to make out that it's me who's lost the plot.  I really don't understand what you're now arguing about.  I made up a ridiculous scenario in the hope of it making some headway with you but I give up.

I'm sure someone on here has a signature about arguing with people like this.

Have you been in L8 lately or is it just what you have heard?

[silhillvilla]

I spent 2 of the cup games in L8 last season,harmless fun is the best to describe it.Just some young lads getting behind our team.

And girls.
When Brigada were in the lower north there were always a couple of girls in amongst it singing their hearts out. Banning this lot is a real shame.

[bertlambshank]

I spent 2 of the cup games in L8 last season,harmless fun is the best to describe it.Just some young lads getting behind our team.

And girls.
When Brigada were in the lower north there were always a couple of girls in amongst it singing their hearts out. Banning this lot is a real shame.

Some on here would them hanging by the neck.

[Doorbell]

Oh right ? Well rather than "change the record" I will answer the question.

Of course I'd be gutted if my area of the ground were closed by BCC. However if it were closed due to a bunch of lads doing their level best to support the team via singing clapping and trying to get some atmosphere going I would come down on the side of said support - in this case Brigada.

The club as I've said have let themselves down again .

How have thge club let themselves down?  I really don't understand why 2-3 people seem determined to demonise the club here.

Fuck me not again the targeting of certain people for standing.There was a lot more people standing in other areas of the ground and nothing was done to them.

Once more, please read carefully:

NO ONE ELSE in the ground is affiliated to a group that states they will stand all game, if this is purely about standing and they were targeted then it happened because they painted (in eye bleeding blue on their website) a big target on themselves.

Do you not understand that stating publicly that you're going to ignore a rule makes it really easy for you to be punished for ignoring the rule.

What about the people who aren't Brigada and sit in L8 but have to stand to see,do you throw them out and ban them as well?

What part of my post makes you think I see them thrown out or banned?  Surely I've made it clear enough now that I'm of the opinion that if you want to show that you care about stopping people standing you target people who state they are going to stand all game.  I really don't get how this is confusing you. 

I have a little experiment for you, go in to A supermarket and tell someone you're going to steal something, see what happens if you then try to get on with shopping and slip a chocolate bar into your pocket.  It's pretty much the same principle, if you're going to make a big deal about ignoring the rules don't be surprised if someone is upset about you ignoring the rules, it really is pretty basic logic.

And if the supermarket turns a blind eye, every week, to customers slipping chocolate bars into their pockets but then singles out one specific group on one occasion who do, isn't that total bollox and no pretty basic logic at all?

To carry on the chocolate bar/supermarket analogy...

No, it's not total bollox, because a) those not targeted are actually putting the chocolate bar back before leaving the shop (I.e maybe not standing for the entire game, thus not actually breaking a rule/law) and b) haven't declared their aim to steal chocolate from the supermarket on a public forum (stated on the interweb that one of their aims is to stand for the entire duration of the game).

I'm in support, from what I've read, of the feel-good brigada are trying to bring to the games.  But to claim something as illogical, when another poster has clearly defined the logic..??...

[Dave Cooper please]

So at some time in the (near) future the police will tell us why.(?)
In the meantime we all have no idea what it is what we're not allowed to do!?
To give them time to make something up?
The rules should be applied across the board, to all present at the venue, not hidden away so that we are uncertain of what's tolerated, or not, sometimes but not all the time!
An announcement over the PA system to inform/remind all of the rules and possible action is perfectly reasonable and even expected.
But not in this case apparently.
Clearly there was a hidden agenda that the stewards and police were aware of but no-one else? 

Oh come on!
You absolutely know that you are not allowed to stand consistently during the game, to pretend you don't know that is bollocks. You don't need a tannoy announcement to tell you.
I agree that the rule isn't applied consistently or even fairly, but no one picked up on it can really complain that they didn't know they were breaking any rules!

[Doorbell]

I spent 2 of the cup games in L8 last season,harmless fun is the best to describe it.Just some young lads getting behind our team.

And girls.
When Brigada were in the lower north there were always a couple of girls in amongst it singing their hearts out. Banning this lot is a real shame.

Some on here would them hanging by the neck.

Some implies it's more than the two who have implied anything negative and only one of those has sounded like he would want that, and in the process has posted something that looks like a veiled threat to someone's kid and repeatedly been pulled up for spouting incoherent nonsense.

[silhillvilla]

I'm relatively new to this site so forgive my ignorance but is there some history between H&V and Brigada ?? Seems very political / defensive / aggressive ?? Or am I wrong ?

[Dave Cooper please]

I spent 2 of the cup games in L8 last season,harmless fun is the best to describe it.Just some young lads getting behind our team.

And girls.
When Brigada were in the lower north there were always a couple of girls in amongst it singing their hearts out. Banning this lot is a real shame.

Some on here would them hanging by the neck.

Who would they be then?