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Author Topic: Brigada Corner  (Read 119573 times)

Offline bertlambshank

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #240 on: August 31, 2013, 07:28:26 PM »
Before you know it it's people being knocked out and letter bombs have been sent.

Dear oh dear, that's a bit of a jump from what we have now, isn't it?

Letter bombs?
10 pint Dan hasn't been back on yet give it time.

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #241 on: August 31, 2013, 07:36:47 PM »
A statement from the club would be simple and completely pointless.  Everyone who goes to games knows that, technically, standing isn't allowed.  Brigada have 5 key principles , the 2nd of which is that they stand all game.

However harsh or heavy handed it may seem all the club has to do is say 'we told them they couldn't stand all game, they refused and have standing all game listed as a key principle of the group so we have, therefore, banned them under guidance from the police and council.

There is almost certainly more to it, but the club don't need there to be.

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #242 on: August 31, 2013, 07:42:21 PM »
A statement from the club would be simple and completely pointless.  Everyone who goes to games knows that, technically, standing isn't allowed.  Brigada have 5 key principles , the 2nd of which is that they stand all game.

However harsh or heavy handed it may seem all the club has to do is say 'we told them they couldn't stand all game, they refused and have standing all game listed as a key principle of the group so we have, therefore, banned them under guidance from the police and council.

There is almost certainly more to it, but the club don't need there to be.
See what I mean people making stuff up,you have no idea if there is more to it.Issue a statement and move on.

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #243 on: August 31, 2013, 07:43:13 PM »
A statement from the club would be simple and completely pointless.  Everyone who goes to games knows that, technically, standing isn't allowed.  Brigada have 5 key principles , the 2nd of which is that they stand all game.

However harsh or heavy handed it may seem all the club has to do is say 'we told them they couldn't stand all game, they refused and have standing all game listed as a key principle of the group so we have, therefore, banned them under guidance from the police and council.

There is almost certainly more to it, but the club don't need there to be.
See what I mean people making stuff up,you have no idea if there is more to it.Issue a statement and move on.

If it's become a legal matter they can't say anything.

Offline bertlambshank

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #244 on: August 31, 2013, 07:47:53 PM »
A statement from the club would be simple and completely pointless.  Everyone who goes to games knows that, technically, standing isn't allowed.  Brigada have 5 key principles , the 2nd of which is that they stand all game.

However harsh or heavy handed it may seem all the club has to do is say 'we told them they couldn't stand all game, they refused and have standing all game listed as a key principle of the group so we have, therefore, banned them under guidance from the police and council.

There is almost certainly more to it, but the club don't need there to be.
See what I mean people making stuff up,you have no idea if there is more to it.Issue a statement and move on.

If it's become a legal matter they can't say anything.
If that's true,better lock the thread.

Offline paul_e

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #245 on: August 31, 2013, 07:51:15 PM »
A statement from the club would be simple and completely pointless.  Everyone who goes to games knows that, technically, standing isn't allowed.  Brigada have 5 key principles , the 2nd of which is that they stand all game.

However harsh or heavy handed it may seem all the club has to do is say 'we told them they couldn't stand all game, they refused and have standing all game listed as a key principle of the group so we have, therefore, banned them under guidance from the police and council.

There is almost certainly more to it, but the club don't need there to be.
See what I mean people making stuff up,you have no idea if there is more to it.Issue a statement and move on.

did you ignore all but the last line?  I'm not making anything up, I just think that there is something else going on as, despite the club being well within their rights for the reasons I gave, I don't think Villa are the sort of club to do something like this lightly.  I have no idea what that could be but I can fully understand that any statement from the club (which as Dave W mentions there's a good chance they couldn't give even if they wanted to) would not need to say anything more than the known facts:

Standing all match isn't allowed
They have a principle of standing all match

More may come out but as things stand the club can justify the response very easily, and that justification is simple.

Offline bertlambshank

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #246 on: August 31, 2013, 07:55:27 PM »
A statement from the club would be simple and completely pointless.  Everyone who goes to games knows that, technically, standing isn't allowed.  Brigada have 5 key principles , the 2nd of which is that they stand all game.

However harsh or heavy handed it may seem all the club has to do is say 'we told them they couldn't stand all game, they refused and have standing all game listed as a key principle of the group so we have, therefore, banned them under guidance from the police and council.

There is almost certainly more to it, but the club don't need there to be.
See what I mean people making stuff up,you have no idea if there is more to it.Issue a statement and move on.

did you ignore all but the last line?  I'm not making anything up, I just think that there is something else going on as, despite the club being well within their rights for the reasons I gave, I don't think Villa are the sort of club to do something like this lightly.  I have no idea what that could be but I can fully understand that any statement from the club (which as Dave W mentions there's a good chance they couldn't give even if they wanted to) would not need to say anything more than the known facts:

Standing all match isn't allowed
They have a principle of standing all match

More may come out but as things stand the club can justify the response very easily, and that justification is simple.
What makes you think there is more to it.What have you heard/been told or is it a feeling?

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #247 on: August 31, 2013, 08:02:23 PM »
A statement from the club would be simple and completely pointless.  Everyone who goes to games knows that, technically, standing isn't allowed.  Brigada have 5 key principles , the 2nd of which is that they stand all game.

However harsh or heavy handed it may seem all the club has to do is say 'we told them they couldn't stand all game, they refused and have standing all game listed as a key principle of the group so we have, therefore, banned them under guidance from the police and council.

There is almost certainly more to it, but the club don't need there to be.
See what I mean people making stuff up,you have no idea if there is more to it.Issue a statement and move on.

did you ignore all but the last line?  I'm not making anything up, I just think that there is something else going on as, despite the club being well within their rights for the reasons I gave, I don't think Villa are the sort of club to do something like this lightly.  I have no idea what that could be but I can fully understand that any statement from the club (which as Dave W mentions there's a good chance they couldn't give even if they wanted to) would not need to say anything more than the known facts:

Standing all match isn't allowed
They have a principle of standing all match

More may come out but as things stand the club can justify the response very easily, and that justification is simple.
What makes you think there is more to it.What have you heard/been told or is it a feeling?

I already answered that above, I've put it in bold for you.

Offline bertlambshank

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #248 on: August 31, 2013, 08:13:09 PM »
So you think there's more to it.See what I mean nobody has a bloody clue what has gone on.At this minute in time we have only heard one side of the story,until the club comes out with anything,20 people have been thrown out for standing.Looks bad on the club until I hear different.

Offline paul_e

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #249 on: August 31, 2013, 08:18:42 PM »
So you think there's more to it.See what I mean nobody has a bloody clue what has gone on.At this minute in time we have only heard one side of the story,until the club comes out with anything,20 people have been thrown out for standing.Looks bad on the club until I hear different.

How does it look bad on the club though, even if people think there's more to it, the founding principles of the group contain a line which shows they they intend to break one of the rules the club has no choice but to have in place.  They (Brigada) have made it very easy for the club to come out of this in the right, and the club can even point to the council and police and say they've had no choice but to do it or the whole stand could get closed.  There is no value to a club statement and the lack of one in no way reflects badly on them.

Offline Bronstein

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #250 on: August 31, 2013, 08:19:33 PM »
A statement from the club would be simple and completely pointless.  Everyone who goes to games knows that, technically, standing isn't allowed.  Brigada have 5 key principles , the 2nd of which is that they stand all game.

However harsh or heavy handed it may seem all the club has to do is say 'we told them they couldn't stand all game, they refused and have standing all game listed as a key principle of the group so we have, therefore, banned them under guidance from the police and council.

There is almost certainly more to it, but the club don't need there to be.
See what I mean people making stuff up,you have no idea if there is more to it.Issue a statement and move on.

did you ignore all but the last line?  I'm not making anything up, I just think that there is something else going on as, despite the club being well within their rights for the reasons I gave, I don't think Villa are the sort of club to do something like this lightly.  I have no idea what that could be but I can fully understand that any statement from the club (which as Dave W mentions there's a good chance they couldn't give even if they wanted to) would not need to say anything more than the known facts:

Standing all match isn't allowed
They have a principle of standing all match

More may come out but as things stand the club can justify the response very easily, and that justification is simple.
What makes you think there is more to it.What have you heard/been told or is it a feeling?

I already answered that above, I've put it in bold for you.

So to answer the question it's unfounded sensationalism

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #251 on: August 31, 2013, 08:21:59 PM »

So to answer the question it's unfounded sensationalism

So much like when you claimed this site was clearly hostile to Brigada?

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #252 on: August 31, 2013, 08:21:59 PM »
All I could think of reading through the first three pages of this thread


Offline Bronstein

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #253 on: August 31, 2013, 08:24:22 PM »

So to answer the question it's unfounded sensationalism

So much like when you claimed this site was clearly hostile to Brigada?

A lot of the posts on this forum have pointed to there "being more to it" which is in itself hostility, where else would these comments come from?

Offline bertlambshank

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Re: Brigada Corner
« Reply #254 on: August 31, 2013, 08:26:13 PM »
So you think there's more to it.See what I mean nobody has a bloody clue what has gone on.At this minute in time we have only heard one side of the story,until the club comes out with anything,20 people have been thrown out for standing.Looks bad on the club until I hear different.

How does it look bad on the club though, even if people think there's more to it, the founding principles of the group contain a line which shows they they intend to break one of the rules the club has no choice but to have in place.  They (Brigada) have made it very easy for the club to come out of this in the right, and the club can even point to the council and police and say they've had no choice but to do it or the whole stand could get closed.  There is no value to a club statement and the lack of one in no way reflects badly on them.
It looks bad on the club because they targeted a certain section of fans.I had to stand all game on Wednesday because people in front of me were standing,no stewards in the North Stand Lower to tell people to sit down maybe because they had been sent up the Holte.
I have no problem with fans being thrown out for standing.Looks,I do have a problem with fans being targeted for doing it.There is no doubt they were targeted on Wednesday anybody in the ground could see it,that does look bad on the club until we are told any different.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2013, 08:54:03 PM by bertlambshank »

 


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