Quote from: bertlambshank on August 31, 2013, 07:14:37 PMBefore you know it it's people being knocked out and letter bombs have been sent.Dear oh dear, that's a bit of a jump from what we have now, isn't it?Letter bombs?
Before you know it it's people being knocked out and letter bombs have been sent.
A statement from the club would be simple and completely pointless. Everyone who goes to games knows that, technically, standing isn't allowed. Brigada have 5 key principles , the 2nd of which is that they stand all game.However harsh or heavy handed it may seem all the club has to do is say 'we told them they couldn't stand all game, they refused and have standing all game listed as a key principle of the group so we have, therefore, banned them under guidance from the police and council.There is almost certainly more to it, but the club don't need there to be.
Quote from: paul_e on August 31, 2013, 07:36:47 PMA statement from the club would be simple and completely pointless. Everyone who goes to games knows that, technically, standing isn't allowed. Brigada have 5 key principles , the 2nd of which is that they stand all game.However harsh or heavy handed it may seem all the club has to do is say 'we told them they couldn't stand all game, they refused and have standing all game listed as a key principle of the group so we have, therefore, banned them under guidance from the police and council.There is almost certainly more to it, but the club don't need there to be.See what I mean people making stuff up,you have no idea if there is more to it.Issue a statement and move on.
Quote from: bertlambshank on August 31, 2013, 07:42:21 PMQuote from: paul_e on August 31, 2013, 07:36:47 PMA statement from the club would be simple and completely pointless. Everyone who goes to games knows that, technically, standing isn't allowed. Brigada have 5 key principles , the 2nd of which is that they stand all game.However harsh or heavy handed it may seem all the club has to do is say 'we told them they couldn't stand all game, they refused and have standing all game listed as a key principle of the group so we have, therefore, banned them under guidance from the police and council.There is almost certainly more to it, but the club don't need there to be.See what I mean people making stuff up,you have no idea if there is more to it.Issue a statement and move on.If it's become a legal matter they can't say anything.
Quote from: bertlambshank on August 31, 2013, 07:42:21 PMQuote from: paul_e on August 31, 2013, 07:36:47 PMA statement from the club would be simple and completely pointless. Everyone who goes to games knows that, technically, standing isn't allowed. Brigada have 5 key principles , the 2nd of which is that they stand all game.However harsh or heavy handed it may seem all the club has to do is say 'we told them they couldn't stand all game, they refused and have standing all game listed as a key principle of the group so we have, therefore, banned them under guidance from the police and council.There is almost certainly more to it, but the club don't need there to be.See what I mean people making stuff up,you have no idea if there is more to it.Issue a statement and move on.did you ignore all but the last line? I'm not making anything up, I just think that there is something else going on as, despite the club being well within their rights for the reasons I gave, I don't think Villa are the sort of club to do something like this lightly. I have no idea what that could be but I can fully understand that any statement from the club (which as Dave W mentions there's a good chance they couldn't give even if they wanted to) would not need to say anything more than the known facts:Standing all match isn't allowedThey have a principle of standing all matchMore may come out but as things stand the club can justify the response very easily, and that justification is simple.
Quote from: paul_e on August 31, 2013, 07:51:15 PMQuote from: bertlambshank on August 31, 2013, 07:42:21 PMQuote from: paul_e on August 31, 2013, 07:36:47 PMA statement from the club would be simple and completely pointless. Everyone who goes to games knows that, technically, standing isn't allowed. Brigada have 5 key principles , the 2nd of which is that they stand all game.However harsh or heavy handed it may seem all the club has to do is say 'we told them they couldn't stand all game, they refused and have standing all game listed as a key principle of the group so we have, therefore, banned them under guidance from the police and council.There is almost certainly more to it, but the club don't need there to be.See what I mean people making stuff up,you have no idea if there is more to it.Issue a statement and move on.did you ignore all but the last line? I'm not making anything up, I just think that there is something else going on as, despite the club being well within their rights for the reasons I gave, I don't think Villa are the sort of club to do something like this lightly. I have no idea what that could be but I can fully understand that any statement from the club (which as Dave W mentions there's a good chance they couldn't give even if they wanted to) would not need to say anything more than the known facts:Standing all match isn't allowedThey have a principle of standing all matchMore may come out but as things stand the club can justify the response very easily, and that justification is simple.What makes you think there is more to it.What have you heard/been told or is it a feeling?
So you think there's more to it.See what I mean nobody has a bloody clue what has gone on.At this minute in time we have only heard one side of the story,until the club comes out with anything,20 people have been thrown out for standing.Looks bad on the club until I hear different.
Quote from: bertlambshank on August 31, 2013, 07:55:27 PMQuote from: paul_e on August 31, 2013, 07:51:15 PMQuote from: bertlambshank on August 31, 2013, 07:42:21 PMQuote from: paul_e on August 31, 2013, 07:36:47 PMA statement from the club would be simple and completely pointless. Everyone who goes to games knows that, technically, standing isn't allowed. Brigada have 5 key principles , the 2nd of which is that they stand all game.However harsh or heavy handed it may seem all the club has to do is say 'we told them they couldn't stand all game, they refused and have standing all game listed as a key principle of the group so we have, therefore, banned them under guidance from the police and council.There is almost certainly more to it, but the club don't need there to be.See what I mean people making stuff up,you have no idea if there is more to it.Issue a statement and move on.did you ignore all but the last line? I'm not making anything up, I just think that there is something else going on as, despite the club being well within their rights for the reasons I gave, I don't think Villa are the sort of club to do something like this lightly. I have no idea what that could be but I can fully understand that any statement from the club (which as Dave W mentions there's a good chance they couldn't give even if they wanted to) would not need to say anything more than the known facts:Standing all match isn't allowedThey have a principle of standing all matchMore may come out but as things stand the club can justify the response very easily, and that justification is simple.What makes you think there is more to it.What have you heard/been told or is it a feeling?I already answered that above, I've put it in bold for you.
So to answer the question it's unfounded sensationalism
Quote from: Bronstein on August 31, 2013, 08:19:33 PMSo to answer the question it's unfounded sensationalismSo much like when you claimed this site was clearly hostile to Brigada?
Quote from: bertlambshank on August 31, 2013, 08:13:09 PMSo you think there's more to it.See what I mean nobody has a bloody clue what has gone on.At this minute in time we have only heard one side of the story,until the club comes out with anything,20 people have been thrown out for standing.Looks bad on the club until I hear different.How does it look bad on the club though, even if people think there's more to it, the founding principles of the group contain a line which shows they they intend to break one of the rules the club has no choice but to have in place. They (Brigada) have made it very easy for the club to come out of this in the right, and the club can even point to the council and police and say they've had no choice but to do it or the whole stand could get closed. There is no value to a club statement and the lack of one in no way reflects badly on them.