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Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8070 on: August 14, 2013, 08:08:32 AM »
I'd also take £4m for Bent.

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Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8071 on: August 14, 2013, 08:43:37 AM »
Downing going to West Ham for £6m and the same age as Bent. Parker, three years older, off to either QPR or West Ham for £3.5m according to the Evening Standard.
Downing and Parker's wages can't be far off Bent's yet clubs are still offering piddly two to four million for him.
Neither Liverpool or Spurs have made is as clear as we have just how desperate we are to get rid though.

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Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8072 on: August 14, 2013, 08:54:27 AM »
Quote
what Bale money ?

he still hasnt gone anywhere yet

He has. They just haggling over the fine details thats all. He's been there since May to all intent.

Benteke needs at least another great season to be classed in the same category as the likes of Lewandoswki. And an exceptional WC. Thats not to denigrate the guy - he could certainly be in the top 5 strikers in the continent by the time he's 25 at this rate. But not just yet.


i'm not so sure, Levy has questioned if Madrid have the money,

rememeber they paid Man Utd in full for Ronanldo, i'm not saying they will for Bale but i could buy Bale for 100 million at £50 a week, so levy would want the terms to be in his favour,
what you call fine details might be a deal breaking problem

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Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8073 on: August 14, 2013, 09:01:44 AM »
I think Hughes's age and price will put a lot of people off. there have been plenty of 17 - 18 year olds that have promised much but have not had longevity if they are able to steer clear of injuries. Personally,I wouldn't go for him at this stage.

What is putting people off is memories of Seth Johnson.

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Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8074 on: August 14, 2013, 09:01:49 AM »
If Bent was anywhere else we'd be screaming at Villa to buy him for £6m.  £4m is just a joke.   

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Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8075 on: August 14, 2013, 09:09:30 AM »
I wouldn't take £4m for Bent, that would be ridiculous.

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« Reply #8076 on: August 14, 2013, 09:45:50 AM »
I wouldn't take £4m for Bent, that would be ridiculous.

Agreed. Particularly as Bent has not asked for a move and so can expect/demand his contract is paid up, meaning a £4m fee might become £2m to the club.

At the end of the window, I think someone will pay the £6m the club want. In the meantime, exploring the loan deal with Palace is an option as it avoids (for now at least) the club buying out the balance of his contract. It's just slightly irritating that it means dealing with Gollum.

I think Bent will find a club, I think the rest of the Bomb Squad will be harder to shift - chiefly because they have less to offer. UTV.

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Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8077 on: August 14, 2013, 10:09:31 AM »
I think Hughes's age and price will put a lot of people off. there have been plenty of 17 - 18 year olds that have promised much but have not had longevity if they are able to steer clear of injuries. Personally,I wouldn't go for him at this stage.

What is putting people off is memories of Seth Johnson.

I agree on this but simply put for a club like Villa to get him they have to pay the money now.  Another year or 2 and it'll be a shoot out between the russians and the arabs.

I've said a few times, he's the most exciting young player I've seen in England for a long time, he looked head and shoulders above anyone in the championship late in the season and is handling a very physical league far better than his frame and age suggest.  He reminds me of the early footage of Zidane, great technique and has the ability to drift past people but also use physical challenges to power away from people.  I'd give Derby their asking price in a blink of an eye, I think whatever they're asking will prove to be a bargain in 2 years, he's good enough to come straight into the first XI at villa, where a lot of the really talented youngsters fall down is they join sides where they're not quite ready to start, and it ruins their development.

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Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8078 on: August 14, 2013, 10:27:02 AM »
I'm sure Holloway will be able to sell the move to Bent. 'Come on son,  leave that half arsed club that used to be famous and come and join the team of the eighties'.

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Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8079 on: August 14, 2013, 10:57:57 AM »
With Bent I would rather let him go out on loan for season with a loan fee of £2m than a flat £4m fee. I would take the gamble that he will prove his fitness and show that he's still a goalscorer. Then in a year's time there could be a few clubs in for him and allow us to sell to the highest bidder. That might be £4/5m then so better overall.

I would like us to go in strong for someone late in the window that we might not otherwise get. That could be Will Hughes. With someone like that, you would imagine they would jump at the prospect of the move which could force Derby's hand into selling. There would be little time for hard negotiation or for someone else to come in for him.

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Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8080 on: August 14, 2013, 11:17:49 AM »
With Bent I would rather let him go out on loan for season with a loan fee of £2m than a flat £4m fee. I would take the gamble that he will prove his fitness and show that he's still a goalscorer. Then in a year's time there could be a few clubs in for him and allow us to sell to the highest bidder. That might be £4/5m then so better overall.

I would like us to go in strong for someone late in the window that we might not otherwise get. That could be Will Hughes. With someone like that, you would imagine they would jump at the prospect of the move which could force Derby's hand into selling. There would be little time for hard negotiation or for someone else to come in for him.

With Hughes that's my hope, I really think he'd be the perfect signing for us, it's a bit of a gamble on him living up to his promise but we've had a pretty risk free summer so far with lots of signings who we'll at least get our money for and will probably make a profit so 1 risky signing (much like Benteke last year) is reasonable.

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Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8081 on: August 14, 2013, 11:20:58 AM »
And you only have to look at how Benteke worked out.

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Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8082 on: August 14, 2013, 11:21:14 AM »
I'd also take £4m for Bent.

I wouldn't.

I've a feeling any incoming transfers are linked (fee-wise) to what we get for the players we've decided we don't want any more. 4m is a joke.

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Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8083 on: August 14, 2013, 11:39:41 AM »
With Bent I would rather let him go out on loan for season with a loan fee of £2m than a flat £4m fee. I would take the gamble that he will prove his fitness and show that he's still a goalscorer. Then in a year's time there could be a few clubs in for him and allow us to sell to the highest bidder. That might be £4/5m then so better overall.

I would like us to go in strong for someone late in the window that we might not otherwise get. That could be Will Hughes. With someone like that, you would imagine they would jump at the prospect of the move which could force Derby's hand into selling. There would be little time for hard negotiation or for someone else to come in for him.

With Hughes that's my hope, I really think he'd be the perfect signing for us, it's a bit of a gamble on him living up to his promise but we've had a pretty risk free summer so far with lots of signings who we'll at least get our money for and will probably make a profit so 1 risky signing (much like Benteke last year) is reasonable.

Benteke was already a full international when we signed him.  Hughes would be much more in the 'prospect' category and is well known enough by now that his club and agent would be after lot more than the package we agreed to for Christian.

Not knocking him as a player, but if we did make the move we'd see exactly why Lambert prefers the Euro market.

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Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8084 on: August 14, 2013, 12:11:09 PM »
if we dont sell him for say £4 million this summer then in January he will be worth £1 million and next summer we will have to give him away!

If it is true he is on £70k  + per week we will have paid him nearly £4 million to go shopping every weekend (madness)

You are only worth what someone is prepared to pay for you. and the lot we are trying to get rid of, are not worth tuppence! if it were me as Manager i would have them in training from 10 - 4 every day (7 days a week) may be that would make them desperate to get away.


 


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