collapse collapse

Please donate to help towards the costs of keeping this site going. Thank You.

Recent Topics

Tyrone Mings by Toronto Villa
[Today at 12:33:19 AM]


Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc. by Randy Gurner
[August 17, 2025, 11:56:34 PM]


Jacob Ramsey - Gone by Brazilian Villain
[August 17, 2025, 11:49:24 PM]


Emi Martinez by eamonn
[August 17, 2025, 11:44:30 PM]


Damian Vidagany - Director of Football by VancouverLion
[August 17, 2025, 11:35:43 PM]


Ex- Villa Players still playing watch by Brazilian Villain
[August 17, 2025, 11:32:38 PM]


Season Ticket 2025/26 by dalians umbrella
[August 17, 2025, 11:18:45 PM]


Aston Villa v Newcastle Post-Match Thread by cdbearsfan
[August 17, 2025, 10:54:00 PM]

Recent Posts

Re: Tyrone Mings by Toronto Villa
[Today at 12:33:19 AM]


Re: Tyrone Mings by Olneythelonely
[Today at 12:05:20 AM]


Re: Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc. by Randy Gurner
[August 17, 2025, 11:56:34 PM]


Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone by Brazilian Villain
[August 17, 2025, 11:49:24 PM]


Re: Emi Martinez by eamonn
[August 17, 2025, 11:44:30 PM]


Re: Emi Martinez by passport1
[August 17, 2025, 11:44:06 PM]


Re: Emi Martinez by brontebilly
[August 17, 2025, 11:39:41 PM]


Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone by brontebilly
[August 17, 2025, 11:38:52 PM]

Follow us on...

Author Topic: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours  (Read 1667826 times)

Offline MoetVillan

  • Member
  • Posts: 4604
Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8085 on: August 14, 2013, 12:39:53 PM »
Id snap your hand off to work 10-4 seven days a week for 70k.

Despite the fact you are asking me to work more than 35 hours, thats still £1666.66 per hour.  Sign me up

I used to do plenty of 100hour+ weeks on agricultural wage, i just wish i had been a better footballer

Offline UK Redsox

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 42865
  • Location: Forest of Dean & Fenway Park
  • GM : 10.02.2026
Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8086 on: August 14, 2013, 12:43:16 PM »
if we dont sell him for say £4 million this summer then in January he will be worth £1 million and next summer we will have to give him away!

If it is true he is on £70k  + per week we will have paid him nearly £4 million to go shopping every weekend (madness)

You are only worth what someone is prepared to pay for you. and the lot we are trying to get rid of, are not worth tuppence! if it were me as Manager i would have them in training from 10 - 4 every day (7 days a week) may be that would make them desperate to get away.



Someone such as Bent should not have been sent to "The Bomb Squad".

Players under contract who are prepared to train hard and not kick up too much of a stink should not be made to train separately regardless of whether the manager thinks that he'll pick in the actual team.

I'm thinking that the likes of Bent, Hutton, Given and The Fonz would fall into this category with probably Ireland and Messi remaining as "The Bomb Duo"

Offline WALTERS WARRIORS

  • Member
  • Posts: 3875
  • Location: The planet called "Ward End"
Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8087 on: August 14, 2013, 01:27:42 PM »
It is ruthless but it stops first team or there about players interacting with others that will not be around come the start of the season. (hopefully) also the players in the "Bomb squad" will be pushing there agents more to get a move, perhaps on lower terms just to get away ......

Offline themossman

  • Member
  • Posts: 10107
  • Location: Bristol
  • GM : 06.05.2022
Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8088 on: August 14, 2013, 01:37:31 PM »
I imagine it's bit of a cautious strategy given the problems under GH and AM. Bent may be a decent pro but if he has no future in the first team then maybe lambert just doesn't want to risk bad juju. We've seen how that can wreck a squad of players.

Online paul_e

  • Member
  • Posts: 37261
  • Age: 45
  • GM : July, 2013
Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8089 on: August 14, 2013, 01:43:55 PM »
What evidence is there that Bannan or Ireland train badly compared to the others?  Bannan worked hard last season when he played, so it seems strange to suggest he's not willing to try in training and Ireland has had several people comment that he works hard in training and agrees to any commitments the club ask of him (with acorns, etc) so why are those 2 singled out of deserving the bomb squad tag when the rest aren't?

the reality is Lambert wants a strong team spirit and players around the squad who know they're not wanted will not help with that.

Offline TheSandman

  • Member
  • Posts: 34781
  • Age: 34
  • Location: The seaside town that they forgot to bomb
  • GM : May, 2013
Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8090 on: August 14, 2013, 02:00:13 PM »
I'm told Bannan trains exceptionally hard when with Scotland and find it exceptionally difficult to believe it is any different at Villa.

Offline themossman

  • Member
  • Posts: 10107
  • Location: Bristol
  • GM : 06.05.2022
Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8091 on: August 14, 2013, 02:03:03 PM »
I always assume the idea of good and bad trainers is a bit of a myth, at least in the sense that it affects selection. If benteke was a rubbish trainer would he get dropped?

Offline TimTheVillain

  • Member
  • Posts: 4447
  • Location: Location
Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8092 on: August 14, 2013, 02:48:47 PM »
I always assume the idea of good and bad trainers is a bit of a myth, at least in the sense that it affects selection. If benteke was a rubbish trainer would he get dropped?

Well yes, God didn't train that hard I wouldn't imagine.

Offline Concrete John

  • Member
  • Posts: 15175
  • Location: Flying blind on a rocket cycle
  • GM : Mar, 2014
Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8093 on: August 14, 2013, 02:53:21 PM »
If Benteke was a rubbish trainer he wouldn't be as good a player.

God is of course the exception to this rule.

Offline supertom

  • Member
  • Posts: 18827
  • Location: High Wycombe, just left of Paradise.
Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8094 on: August 14, 2013, 03:14:16 PM »
John Carew wasn't brilliant in training apparently. He did well enough for us. But then again, not being great in training in some cases is down to persistent ailments or which Carew and indeed God suffered. Carew had a dodgy back among other things. Some players have to save if for the games.

I just think in some cases on the bomb squad it's just that they're not good enough (Bannan, Stevens, Fonz, Hutton). In others, players are just not suited to how Lambo wants to play (Bent, Ireland, N'Zogbia). None of them have thrown their toys out their pram to be fair. In a couple of cases, booze might have played some part, but lets not go speculate too much.

Sometimes you need players to do a bit more beyond general training. Bannan would have benefited greatly from improving his physical and upper body strength. That's not a pre-requisite of training, that's above and beyond and part of being incredibly strong willed and dedicated. It's the difference between an Agbonlahor and a Moore. Gabby has worked exceptionally hard on all aspects of his game. On the training field, in the gym, in the summers off, probably in his sleep.

Offline edgysatsuma89

  • Member
  • Posts: 6581
Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8095 on: August 14, 2013, 03:28:35 PM »
I always assume the idea of good and bad trainers is a bit of a myth, at least in the sense that it affects selection. If benteke was a rubbish trainer would he get dropped?

I've heard accounts from a few people (G.Nev being one) of how shit Tevez is at training, but he saves it all for the game and is arguably the reason why he is a little terrier. I know what I'd prefer, as long as they can do it week in week out, Benteke could be smoking 40 super kings a day and I wouldn't care.

Offline not3bad

  • Member
  • Posts: 12218
  • Location: Back in Brum
  • GM : 15.06.2022


Offline Loxton01

  • Member
  • Posts: 519
Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8098 on: August 14, 2013, 03:46:27 PM »
Id love Barry back on Loan for a season. Middle of the Park he could orchestrate much better than anyone we currently have at the Club. I dont rate El Ahmadi. Id send Gardner on loan first half of the season. Then id pick one of Delph and Westwood to partner Barry

Online eamonn

  • Member
  • Posts: 33797
  • Location: Stay in sight of the mainland
  • GM : 26.07.2020
Re: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #8099 on: August 14, 2013, 03:46:30 PM »
Ballsy or foolish? He may not be twenty three and a half but he's better than I KEA and Cilla.

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal