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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4785 on: June 25, 2013, 07:59:03 AM »
... Lerner gave Lambert £27million last summer ...
Was it really that much? Are you including wages in that?

I had it at around £16m.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4786 on: June 25, 2013, 08:38:48 AM »
I largely agree with sonlyme here.  I firmly believe the next step on this is to get another player or 2 where people are surprised he's come to us but who are still in line with our policy.  This is why I like the idea of Belhanda and he's at the lower end of that scale.  Muniain, Eriksen,  Maher, Praets and a few others are the big prospects in europe, snagging one of those would be huge.

For what it's worth I think Okore is close to the same pedigree but you don't get the same buzz around defenders so he's gone under the radar a bit.

If we can get a reputation for finding players in the class of Benteke regularly we'll start to see the agents of these players coming to us and doing the work for us.  They want exposure in the big leagues, doing that as part of an exciting young squad will be appealing.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4787 on: June 25, 2013, 08:42:06 AM »
Definitely wouldn't say no to Nathan Redmond at a couple of million quid, fits in with Lamberts philosophy and would finally be an English signing for this season.

I don't think I can really decide if he'd be a good signing, because I can't trust myself to be honest about how much the fact it'd piss that lot off is affecting my judgment.

I think he may become a good impact player out on the wing but he would need to progress quite a bit to become Premier League quality. If the rumours about him being a Villa fan were true it would only make it all the sweeter about nicking him off Small Heath.

My mate's a steward down at the sty and reckons he's a bluenose.
Then again Craig Gardener kept his allegiance to them pretty quiet until he signed for them.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4788 on: June 25, 2013, 08:52:44 AM »
I think we will have to shift Ireland and Bent off the books before anyone else come in.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4789 on: June 25, 2013, 09:23:43 AM »
Definitely wouldn't say no to Nathan Redmond at a couple of million quid, fits in with Lamberts philosophy and would finally be an English signing for this season.

I don't think I can really decide if he'd be a good signing, because I can't trust myself to be honest about how much the fact it'd piss that lot off is affecting my judgment.

I think he may become a good impact player out on the wing but he would need to progress quite a bit to become Premier League quality. If the rumours about him being a Villa fan were true it would only make it all the sweeter about nicking him off Small Heath.

My mate's a steward down at the sty and reckons he's a bluenose.
Then again Craig Gardener kept his allegiance to them pretty quiet until he signed for them.

Ian Taylor is a very close family friend of redmonds dad and taylor confirmed hes villa through and through, it was over a year ago and on twitter but it was the real ian taylor so yes redmond is a villa fan

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4790 on: June 25, 2013, 09:56:59 AM »
Definitely wouldn't say no to Nathan Redmond at a couple of million quid, fits in with Lamberts philosophy and would finally be an English signing for this season.

I don't think I can really decide if he'd be a good signing, because I can't trust myself to be honest about how much the fact it'd piss that lot off is affecting my judgment.

I think he may become a good impact player out on the wing but he would need to progress quite a bit to become Premier League quality. If the rumours about him being a Villa fan were true it would only make it all the sweeter about nicking him off Small Heath.

My mate's a steward down at the sty and reckons he's a bluenose.
Then again Craig Gardener kept his allegiance to them pretty quiet until he signed for them.

Ian Taylor is a very close family friend of redmonds dad and taylor confirmed hes villa through and through, it was over a year ago and on twitter but it was the real ian taylor so yes redmond is a villa fan

My kids are his cousins and can confirm he's Villa.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4791 on: June 25, 2013, 10:04:47 AM »
you can understand him keeping it under his hat but expect the second he leave to be screaming it from the roof tops

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4792 on: June 25, 2013, 10:36:03 AM »
I see The Scum is suggesting that we're looking at M'Bia.  They might have just as well printed "Look Wimbledon is on, frankly we don't have the time or the reporters for this shit...."

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4793 on: June 25, 2013, 11:05:23 AM »
I would love Redmond at the fee being touted. Proper get people off their seat type of player. Shame if not in for him as he would fit well here.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4794 on: June 25, 2013, 11:06:26 AM »
M'Bia is a mercenary and not very good.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4795 on: June 25, 2013, 11:07:16 AM »
I would love Redmond at the fee being touted. Proper get people off their seat type of player. Shame if not in for him as he would fit well here.

Not seen enough of him ozz, is he more of a tony Daley type than a mark Walters kind then ?

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4796 on: June 25, 2013, 11:33:11 AM »
... Lerner gave Lambert £27million last summer ...
Was it really that much? Are you including wages in that?

I had it at around £16m.

We all have to work off numbers the media give us - and they tend to be best guesses - often devoid of agent fees etc.  I got my info from someone connected to the club (albeit not in the finance department) but the best breakdown of spending I have found was here - http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/aston-villa-transfers.html

And this is Villa's summer spend last season.

   

So nearer the £27 million total spend that I was told.

But the main point I'm trying to make is that with extra income from the PL this season - and the boost of shifting the highly paid likes of Bent and Ireland - we can expect some more signings. Because even if we go with last seasons spend - we still got roughly £17miilion to go.  I think we will spend a little more this time.   I think the targets will be real quality with larger fees - but that is just my opinion.  Or should I say, my wish.

Cheers.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4797 on: June 25, 2013, 11:37:44 AM »
... Lerner gave Lambert £27million last summer ...
Was it really that much? Are you including wages in that?

I had it at around £16m.

We all have to work off numbers the media give us - and they tend to be best guesses - often devoid of agent fees etc.  I got my info from someone connected to the club (albeit not in the finance department) but the best breakdown of spending I have found was here - http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/aston-villa-transfers.html

And this is Villa's summer spend last season.

   

So nearer the £27 million total spend that I was told.

But the main point I'm trying to make is that with extra income from the PL this season - and the boost of shifting the highly paid likes of Bent and Ireland - we can expect some more signings. Because even if we go with last seasons spend - we still got roughly £17miilion to go.  I think we will spend a little more this time.   I think the targets will be real quality with larger fees - but that is just my opinion.  Or should I say, my wish.

Cheers.

Wpuldnt take too much notice of the media there - i heard lambert saying on talksport that Lowton had cost £1m.

Also benteke would have been nearer £7m than the £10m you have on that chart.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4798 on: June 25, 2013, 11:38:14 AM »
... Lerner gave Lambert £27million last summer ...
Was it really that much? Are you including wages in that?

I had it at around £16m.

We all have to work off numbers the media give us - and they tend to be best guesses - often devoid of agent fees etc.  I got my info from someone connected to the club (albeit not in the finance department) but the best breakdown of spending I have found was here - http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/aston-villa-transfers.html

And this is Villa's summer spend last season.

   

So nearer the £27 million total spend that I was told.

But the main point I'm trying to make is that with extra income from the PL this season - and the boost of shifting the highly paid likes of Bent and Ireland - we can expect some more signings. Because even if we go with last seasons spend - we still got roughly £17miilion to go.  I think we will spend a little more this time.   I think the targets will be real quality with larger fees - but that is just my opinion.  Or should I say, my wish.

Cheers.
Some of those fees paid have been debated though. I think Lambert himself said that we paid a lot less for Lowton and Bennett than was reported. I think Lowts was more like a million than 3. Benteke didnt cost 10 million either. I think it was 7.8 million.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4799 on: June 25, 2013, 11:40:58 AM »
Benteke was widely reported at £7m and Lowton was said to be only £1m.  I think most of our deals for these young players carry add ons, so I think £25.7m is probably the top end of that.

 


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