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Author Topic: Summer 2013: Villa Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours  (Read 1667768 times)

Offline paulcomben

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4770 on: June 24, 2013, 09:44:15 PM »
Curious that no bigger clubs have gone after Tom Ince. They must see flaws.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4771 on: June 24, 2013, 09:44:25 PM »
I think Williams will have seen Villa buy Okore to go straight into the squad alongside 2 other young centre-backs in Clark and Baker and realised his chances will be few and far between in th next couple of seasons.

I am surprised it's a free transfer though. I'd be amazed if we haven't got a sizeable sell-on fee in the deal though.

Surprised at what? He is a free agent, no sell on fee.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4772 on: June 24, 2013, 09:56:18 PM »
Curious that no bigger clubs have gone after Tom Ince. They must see flaws.
Laminated ?

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4773 on: June 24, 2013, 11:00:51 PM »
Definitely wouldn't say no to Nathan Redmond at a couple of million quid, fits in with Lamberts philosophy and would finally be an English signing for this season.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4774 on: June 24, 2013, 11:04:26 PM »
Definitely wouldn't say no to Nathan Redmond at a couple of million quid, fits in with Lamberts philosophy and would finally be an English signing for this season.

I don't think I can really decide if he'd be a good signing, because I can't trust myself to be honest about how much the fact it'd piss that lot off is affecting my judgment.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4775 on: June 24, 2013, 11:10:13 PM »
Definitely wouldn't say no to Nathan Redmond at a couple of million quid, fits in with Lamberts philosophy and would finally be an English signing for this season.

I don't think I can really decide if he'd be a good signing, because I can't trust myself to be honest about how much the fact it'd piss that lot off is affecting my judgment.

I think he may become a good impact player out on the wing but he would need to progress quite a bit to become Premier League quality. If the rumours about him being a Villa fan were true it would only make it all the sweeter about nicking him off Small Heath.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4776 on: June 24, 2013, 11:10:25 PM »
Definitely wouldn't say no to Nathan Redmond at a couple of million quid, fits in with Lamberts philosophy and would finally be an English signing for this season.

I don't think I can really decide if he'd be a good signing, because I can't trust myself to be honest about how much the fact it'd piss that lot off is affecting my judgment.
We helped them out with TSM.Its a no from me.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4777 on: June 24, 2013, 11:15:05 PM »
Williams was at the end of his contract, was offered a new one but turned it down in favour of finding first team football elsewhere. We'll only get standard compensation/conditions as per the rules for young players.

Shame, he's a good player, but he's approaching 21 and can't afford to play only a handful of minutes a season. He's made the right decision.

I'm surprised that Daniel Johnson didn't do the same. Another very good player in a similar position.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4778 on: June 24, 2013, 11:45:32 PM »
I quite like mr Ramsey, would arsenal consider selling ?
It would be nice to see him wearing the claret and blue.
No thanks. He is another Bentley!

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4779 on: June 24, 2013, 11:51:33 PM »
I hope we have first option to buy Williams back.  It would be odd if Lambert has seen enough after one senior start to just cut him adrift.
I am surprised it's a free transfer though. I'd be amazed if we haven't got a sizeable sell-on fee in the deal though.
His contract has expired so he is free to do what he wants and we have no say on buy back option or sell on fee.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4780 on: June 24, 2013, 11:59:42 PM »

Henry. God No! Worse than Cattermole. Is this the equivalent competition to snog the ugliest bird on holiday? Sign or suggest we sign the most inappropriate player

We already have Delph to kick people.
At the moment Delph mostly misses people however when he is good he will be tackling like Scholes!

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4781 on: June 25, 2013, 01:43:06 AM »
I don't see the Gareth Barry thing personally.  I think it is more a case of journos hearing that Barry has been told to sling his hook and then putting two and two together and coming up with a vaguely plausible story.  Villa policy has become clear.  Young, talented, driven, and so far, not overly expensive.  But the latter part of that formula  could be about to change.

With their early business done Lambert is now concentrating on moving out those players who do not fit in with his vision. Bent, Ireland, Hutton, Given, and probably one or two reserves will be moved on.  This will release wage space as well as generate extra income.  Given that we have spent only £10 million so far I can see the second phase of transfers involving bigger fees.  I don't think Lambert will go for old pros but will spend what he has to for the right young players.  Villa have some momentum and profile for developing exciting young players now - and people are noticing.

If we want the likes of Benteke to stay and the club to prosper we have to show we mean to improve - we have to start to pull in some higher profile young talent.

Lerner gave Lambert £27million last summer - and that was during austerity.  The premier league this season sees a minimum £20million increase in revenue for the club over last year - add that to any sale income and I think we can expect two or three really exciting new faces to join the cause before the window closes.

We won't be fighting with Chelsea and Manchester City for the likes of Neymar or Stevan Jovetic but I think we may well be able to attract some real star talent of our own. Young bucks like Will Hughes or Nathan Redmond would be nice but even better would be players like Christian Eriksen, Dennis Praet, Paul Pogba, Abel Hernandez, Ahmed Musa, Valon Berisha, even Iker Muniain.  Two or three real talents like these and we will have sent a message loud and clear about who we are and where we are going.  Add a little success and the effect becomes self perpetuating.  Ask Alex.

Of course - now I've said this - we'll get a reserve goalie from Mansfield Town and some kid from Swindon.  But half the fun is the dreaming.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2013, 01:57:59 AM by sonlyme »

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4782 on: June 25, 2013, 01:44:12 AM »
ffs - went to correct something and ended up quoting myself like a mook - it's all gone a bit Joe Kinnear.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2013, 02:00:27 AM by sonlyme »

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4783 on: June 25, 2013, 07:21:40 AM »
I don't see the Gareth Barry thing personally.  I think it is more a case of journos hearing that Barry has been told to sling his hook and then putting two and two together and coming up with a vaguely plausible story.  Villa policy has become clear.  Young, talented, driven, and so far, not overly expensive.  But the latter part of that formula  could be about to change.

With their early business done Lambert is now concentrating on moving out those players who do not fit in with his vision. Bent, Ireland, Hutton, Given, and probably one or two reserves will be moved on.  This will release wage space as well as generate extra income.  Given that we have spent only £10 million so far I can see the second phase of transfers involving bigger fees.  I don't think Lambert will go for old pros but will spend what he has to for the right young players.  Villa have some momentum and profile for developing exciting young players now - and people are noticing.

If we want the likes of Benteke to stay and the club to prosper we have to show we mean to improve - we have to start to pull in some higher profile young talent.

Lerner gave Lambert £27million last summer - and that was during austerity.  The premier league this season sees a minimum £20million increase in revenue for the club over last year - add that to any sale income and I think we can expect two or three really exciting new faces to join the cause before the window closes.

We won't be fighting with Chelsea and Manchester City for the likes of Neymar or Stevan Jovetic but I think we may well be able to attract some real star talent of our own. Young bucks like Will Hughes or Nathan Redmond would be nice but even better would be players like Christian Eriksen, Dennis Praet, Paul Pogba, Abel Hernandez, Ahmed Musa, Valon Berisha, even Iker Muniain.  Two or three real talents like these and we will have sent a message loud and clear about who we are and where we are going.  Add a little success and the effect becomes self perpetuating.  Ask Alex.

Of course - now I've said this - we'll get a reserve goalie from Mansfield Town and some kid from Swindon.  But half the fun is the dreaming.

I actually agree with you on this in a way, and agree on the the money available. I think Lambert and the club have cannily identified 5-6 players that they could get in to the club quickly and cheaply, lets be honest we have spent peanuts and I doubt the wages will have been excessive either, so there will now be a period of getting Ireland, Bent, Given, Hutton and the likes off the wage bill, thus freeing up the funds for 2-3 players more in the Benteke ball park of fees. Like you, I may be proved wrong with a couple of lads from Nuneaton and a star youngster from a 3rd division German side! I don't expect us to change policy and go for someone like Milner that would command huge fees and wages like West Ham might be, but similar but more highly renowned 19-23 years olds with reputations similar to Okore.

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Re: Summer 2013: Transfers, Speculation, Suggestions and Rumours
« Reply #4784 on: June 25, 2013, 07:40:13 AM »
I don't see it as being our business being done early and that we're done. All we've done is added players that we need for certain positions. They are all potentially good signings but with the same amount, and maybe more, experienced - albeit crap - experienced players also going it leaves us very light on numbers and experience. I think we'll still see another 5 or 6 coming in. We may get one or two more overseas youngsters but I doubt it. We've moved early in the foreign market thanks to our scouting network. I think we'll now deal in the English/British market or for the more established overseas players. That will mean more competition and being in a chain like homebuyers. That is where things slow down and where we'll have to wait until July and mostly likely August to complete our signings.

 


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