Is Villa Park part of the problem?

[Stu]

I've thought for some time that it is part of the problem.
The amount of moaning and groaning and f ing and blinding at players is seriously demoralising.

Yeah, blame the supporters.

It doesn't matter how much someone earns, it doesn't stop them from being human, of course the moaning and groaning affects them.  I'm not saying the sole responsibility lies with the fans, but we do have an impact.

The thing is that the team has to lead with this. It might just be that because the team has been so shit at home for so long that the fans' patience is very thin. And I agree with Nev, if Lambert and the players can't hack it they should do one.

[eastie]

I've thought for some time that it is part of the problem.
The amount of moaning and groaning and f ing and blinding at players is seriously demoralising.

Yeah, blame the supporters.

It doesn't matter how much someone earns, it doesn't stop them from being human, of course the moaning and groaning affects them.  I'm not saying the sole responsibility lies with the fans, but we do have an impact.

The thing is that the team has to lead with this. It might just be that because the team has been so shit at home for so long that the fans' patience is very thin. And I agree with Nev, if Lambert and the players can't hack it they should do one.

Agreed stu.

[Doorbell]

I've thought for some time that it is part of the problem.
The amount of moaning and groaning and f ing and blinding at players is seriously demoralising.

Yeah, blame the supporters.

It doesn't matter how much someone earns, it doesn't stop them from being human, of course the moaning and groaning affects them.  I'm not saying the sole responsibility lies with the fans, but we do have an impact.

The thing is that the team has to lead with this. It might just be that because the team has been so shit at home for so long that the fans' patience is very thin. And I agree with Nev, if Lambert and the players can't hack it they should do one.

Then we're essentially at a psychological Mexican stand off and the only loser will be the club and the fans. If we blame the players and manager, they blame us, then someone has to be the bigger (wo)man, take a step back nd do the right thing and I say that the fans are the bigger person.  Sing, party, happy shiney people, lets all have a disco, cry two tears in a bucket, fuckit, lets take it to the stage...

[Ads]

No it is not.

Systems and players are the problem.

If we can get Benteke, Gabby, Charlie and Andi playing and in a system that lets us use their pace with genuine width, then we will stretch sides, get more ball in the box with a greater chance of squaring up the opposition back four and more than likely square goals.

If Gabby and Andi play wide against West Ham, with Charlie in the hole, then I guarantee (Crocodile from the Racoons stylee) that we will beat West Ham.

That attack is top eight.

[curlytailavfc]

With no disrespect to Stan, but clapping every game on the 19th minute doesn't help, its like you brother telling you your moms ill and might die every week end I think it causes depression at Villa Park.

[itbrvilla]

Perhaps it is the size of the pitch as there aren't many as large as VP. Perhaps the club should look into it as there is definitely a problem.

[Irish villain]

Perhaps it is the size of the pitch as there aren't many as large as VP. Perhaps the club should look into it as there is definitely a problem.

I think somebody posted measurements at the start of the season and it turned out most pitches are in fact the same size.

[rob_bridge]

With no disrespect to Stan, but clapping every game on the 19th minute doesn't help, its like you brother telling you your moms ill and might die every week end I think it causes depression at Villa Park.

Completely agree - it is an absolute nonsense.

[exigo]

The thing is that the team has to lead with this. It might just be that because the team has been so shit at home for so long that the fans' patience is very thin. And I agree with Nev, if Lambert and the players can't hack it they should do one.

The team has taken the lead in away games. And the fans respond with chants of 'how shit must you be, we're winning away'. If they do it at home, there'll be 30,000 fans singing 'how shit must you be, we're winning at home'.

[Dave Clark Five]

The thing is that the team has to lead with this. It might just be that because the team has been so shit at home for so long that the fans' patience is very thin. And I agree with Nev, if Lambert and the players can't hack it they should do one.

The team has taken the lead in away games. And the fans respond with chants of 'how shit must you be, we're winning away'. If they do it at home, there'll be 30,000 fans singing 'how shit must you be, we're winning at home'.

I'm sure that chant does nothing for the team at all. It may wind up the home fans but is just like singing that we are crap.

[McGraths Dry Cleaning]

I've thought for some time that it is part of the problem.
The amount of moaning and groaning and f ing and blinding at players is seriously demoralising.

Yeah, blame the supporters.

It might be demoralising but there have been plenty of games over the last three seasons where long, loud and sustained support hasn't had the opposite effect.

[Pete3206]

The Villa Park argument might have legs if grounds like Goodison Park, Old Trafford, The Emirates, Stamford Bridge and Łastland$ were bear bits with constant walls of noise throughout 90 minutes, intimidating the away support and players alike. But, that just isn't the case is it? They just have good players, good management and organised teams.

In fact, I can't think of any ground, bar Stoke about 3 years ago, when I I've thought "bloody hell, these are noisy buggers"

[oldham_villa]

Has anyone ever looked at the stats for Tony Barton's reign? Our home form was absolutely amazing, yet our away form was utterly woeful.

[neo_Villan]

With one of the widest pitches in the EPL we probably should be making more use of wingers at home, even if as an early substitution tactic.
but it's been a problem for several seasons.

Or if Lambert knew he would be playing narrow he should have requested the pitch was reduced to the minimum allowed size.

[royvilla949]

what a load of bolocks its got nothing to do with the crowd,its becourse the manager and team are shit