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Offline danlanza

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Re: Lerner to meet PL early next week?
« Reply #150 on: January 27, 2013, 01:21:23 PM »
He's overseeing the purchase and of chalkboards and signing a megadeal with aldi to supply the hungry hoardes with chicken nuggets.
Perfectly true. Lets all buy season tickets so we can all take pleasure in our new Aston Villa Chalkboard experience. Marvelous.

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Re: Lerner to meet PL early next week?
« Reply #151 on: January 27, 2013, 01:25:29 PM »
Fuck me eastie make your mind is he going to spend yes/no.
I would be having a word with your ITK again.

The money is there - he hasnt spent it yet .
Will he spend it - surely he will .

But last night your ITK told you PL had decided not to spend it.I know 12 hours is a long time but come on.

Decided not to spend it so far - doesnt mean not at all obviously!
Well we all know that.Your ITK knows as much as the rest of us.The short side of fuck all.

Nice try - Im sure if he could read that he would be laughing his head off

Your ITK...is he dead?...maybe eastie is getting his info from the man above?

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Re: Lerner to meet PL early next week?
« Reply #152 on: January 27, 2013, 02:24:11 PM »
Chris  correct. if you are taking over a team that has been into two relegation fights you would consider relegation. People should stop chewing the fat on Lamberts words in such minutiae to look for what they term as excuses!

He never mentioned before now though has he? He's getting desperate now everyone's realised just how awful a job he's doing.

Absolutely, why mention it? It's like a clumsy cleaner knocking over the Venus de Milo and saying "Oh, but its arms had fallen off anyway."
All of us  , those who carry the burden of responsibility on our shoulders, consider  the risks around us  but don't  go out spouting them willy nilly in order to keep the ship calm but now and than there comes a time when you do have to say something even if it is obvious.

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Re: Lerner to meet PL early next week?
« Reply #153 on: January 27, 2013, 02:27:30 PM »


Your ITK...is he dead?...maybe eastie is getting his info from the man above?

I am sure I spotted eastie on top of the rubbish mountain in Bickenhill waiting  for delivery of the next revelation very early this morning!

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Lerner to meet PL early next week?
« Reply #154 on: January 27, 2013, 03:20:55 PM »
He said: "That's the decision I've made. The football club has been in relegation battles for the last few years. This isn't just new on them because they've been in it for a few years.

He's started getting this one in of late, I've noticed. A bit of back covering while things are crashing down around his ears.

Seems that way , getting in the excuses in preparation , when he says weve been in relegation battles the last few years , we have only actually finished bottom half once in 5 years .

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

We spent most of Houllier's season in the bottom half it was only in the last couple of games that we made it safe. So we've been relegation contenders for 3 seasons now. In our efforts to trim the wage bill we got rid of too many players too quickly.

It seems obvious to me that what we need is a period of stability, not another change of manager.

I don't think we got rid of people too quickly, most of their contracts were run down, save for those who were any good. Oh and Downing thanks to Dalglish living 20 years behind the time. Their replacements have been almost to a man not good enough. CNZ, Ireland, Hutton, Given (past his best), Jenas, KEA, Holman, Bennett and the youngsters haven't developed Bannan, ALbrighton, Clark, Lichaj even

aye. I think most people realised the squad needed to be cut down form pubeheads time - its just the way they went about it. The sensible thing would have been to replace the *star* players with  premiership experienced players, and the reserves with youth, so you have a situation of good players backed up by promising youth players or people bought in cheaply. We got star players replaced by youth or not at all and mental situations as an experienced reserve 'keeper almost certainly on far more than the 1st choice!

I get your point but if you look back (even to when Barry left) and tracked who left and who they were replaced by you will see that we started with a policy of replacing the best players with experienced players and then more recently, experienced players (of lesser quality) with young players.

I cannot be bothered to list the players but the outcome is that the replacements (even from the sale of Barry) have either not been as good or we have not been able to sell one to get two in to strengthen the squad.  Add to this the change in playing styles that have made some of our players redundant and injuries to key players, you end up with a squad that is not good enough to compete.

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Re: Lerner to meet PL early next week?
« Reply #155 on: January 27, 2013, 05:45:14 PM »
Perhaps he might sack Lambert after the Newcastle defeat? (I predict we'll lose)

Right at the end of the transfer window.  Figures. 

We're not being told the truth. 
We ain't being told fuck all...

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Re: Lerner to meet PL early next week?
« Reply #156 on: January 27, 2013, 05:52:49 PM »
It's not worth its own thread and I am not sure where to put it, so I'll put it here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/jan/26/randy-lerner-aston-villa-paul-lambert
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If Doug Ellis were still in charge, it is fair to say we know what would have happened by now. The knock on Paul Lambert's door would have come the morning after the night before. And when I say the night before, I mean the Bradford match rather than the ignominy that followed at Millwall. Men of considerable wealth do not tend to appreciate being shown up in public. The lawyers would have been notified. Then Lambert would have been escorted to the exit, his belongings sent on in a Jiffy bag.

Unintentional apparently, but the Birmingham Post certainly rubbed a motorway gritter's worth of salt into a very open wound when it announced Randy Lerner was fifth in the newspaper's annual rich list last Wednesday. No doubt Aston Villa's supporters were thrilled to learn that the club's increasingly elusive owner had added another £300m to his fortune, taking his personal worth to £1.1bn, as they tried to make sense of how Bradford City, from the puddles and potholes of League Two, had left them on their knees.

It does raise the question about whether Lerner should still count as an honorary Brummie when he has pretty much been running Villa by remote control from his place in Manhattan and it is difficult to find anyone who can be sure when he next intends to pay us a visit.

He was not at Millwall on Friday for the latest ordeal in a season of basic ineptitude that is threatening to leave England's second city, as they still like to call themselves, without a top-division team for the first time in a quarter of a century. He was not at Villa Park to see the meltdown against Bradford and the incongruous sight of a fourth division team celebrating in front of a stand where the two tiers are divided by a banner carrying Brian Moore's commentary from the 1982 European Cup final: "Shaw … Williams prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball. Played in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be! And it is! Peter Withe!"

History now. Memories of another century.

Ordinarily, Villa's supporters might be able to take some form of malicious pleasure about the crisis that has taken hold of Birmingham City now their owner, Carson Yeung, has had his assets frozen ahead of his April trial in Hong Kong for his alleged part in a money-laundering venture.

Birmingham's problems navigating a way from one payday to the next certainly put Villa's into context. The entire squad at St Andrew's is for sale, at discount prices, before Thursday's transfer deadline. The club turned down a £6m bid from Southampton for Jack Butland last summer because they valued him at twice that amount. Now they would accept £2.5m. Twenty players are out of contract at the end of the season. All but three of their 29 signings since dropping out of the Premier League in 2011 have been freebies, loans or short-term arrangements. It is a tangled mess that could very easily lead them to the weed-strewn car parks of League One next season.

Villa, though, are in no position for schadenfreude. The whole of football is rubbernecking in their direction now. Their manager is not wearing the stress well. The crowd are restless, bordering on mutiny but holding back for now. All the signs are in place of a relegation waiting to happen and this, remember, is no longer the era of the yo-yo club. The string has snapped if you look at Bolton, Blackburn and Wolves, for example. All relegated last season, all now in the lower half of the Championship.

More than anything, there is this sense that Lerner has let his interest in the club slide since those early days when he talked such a good game and demonstrated his commitment by having the rampant lion, taken from the club crest, tattooed below his sock-line.

His last appearance was the 3-0 home defeat to Wigan four days after Christmas. Nobody sees Lerner having a quiet pint in the Holte pub these days. The club have become secretive about his scheduling, just like Chelsea when Roman Abramovich is going through one of his more elusive spells. Nobody seems to know if Lerner will be at Villa Park on Tuesday, when Newcastle's visit brings together two sides straying dangerously close to full-on collapse.

Presumably he would contest any allegations of losing interest and, to give him his due, there had been a £200m outlay before he stopped coming to the table and brought in a new strategy built to a large degree on developing academy players.

He might also point out the overall wage bill in the 2010-11 season was £25m higher than Everton's and that there are only three clubs – Manchester City, Chelsea and Stoke – above Villa in the transfer table of net spend over the past five years.

Yet Villa have made their worst start to a season in 43 years and it has been clear ever since that, if he was indeed still listening, a message needed to be absorbed before the damage reached the stage when it started to look irreparable.

As it stands, four days away from the transfer window clanking shut, we might already have reached that point. Who, seriously, would be taken aback now if Villa, confidence shot to pieces, could not clamber out of the Premier League's quicksands?

That is not to say the only antidote whenever a club runs into trouble is to write another cheque. It can help, though. Villa are fourth from bottom, with the worst defence in the league and 19 goals scored from their 23 games. At least Reading, directly below them, have some degree of momentum. Wigan have shown a few times that they understand the spirit of togetherness that is needed for an end-of-season feat of escapology. Even QPR are showing flickers of recovery.

Yet Lerner says nothing. The Birmingham Mail has already delivered a list of questions (No1: Are you still committed to Aston Villa?) and been ignored. Trying to explain another ghastly embarrassment on Friday, Lambert shunned every question from its correspondent. Four times he looked the other way and left the Millwall pressroom suspended in awkward silence.

It was pathetic stuff. In his position, Lambert might be better advised trying to ingratiate himself with the local paper rather than masquerading as a junior Sir Alex Ferguson.

In Lerner's case, he has no duty to be heard. There is nothing that says a football club's owner should be accessible to the media and public. Yet it might at least give him the chance to demonstrate he is still committed, determined to put it right and not planning to have his tattoo removed by laser. Turning up on Tuesday might be a start.

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Re: Lerner to meet PL early next week?
« Reply #157 on: January 27, 2013, 10:35:13 PM »
there meeting to see how many Tesco point the club have

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Re: Lerner to meet PL early next week?
« Reply #158 on: January 27, 2013, 10:53:48 PM »
Fuck me eastie make your mind is he going to spend yes/no.
I would be having a word with your ITK again.

The money is there - he hasnt spent it yet .
Will he spend it - surely he will .

But last night your ITK told you PL had decided not to spend it.I know 12 hours is a long time but come on.

Decided not to spend it so far - doesnt mean not at all obviously!
Well we all know that.Your ITK knows as much as the rest of us.The short side of fuck all.

Nice try - Im sure if he could read that he would be laughing his head off

Your ITK...is he dead?...maybe eastie is getting his info from the man above?


Illiterate. Must be a footballer. Or maybe a dyslexic leper.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2013, 10:55:28 PM by Percy McCarthy »

Offline neo_Villan

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Re: Lerner to meet PL early next week?
« Reply #159 on: January 28, 2013, 12:25:50 PM »
How the meeting will probably transpire:

RL: Paul, I'm disappointed with our elimination from the FA Superbowl at the hands of the Millwall Soccer Franchise.

PL: We'll pick ourselves up and go again...The lads will be really,really fine.

RL: Awesome!

PL: Any chance of some funding?

RL: LOL!!!!

PL: :(

RL: What progress is being made in the Premier Soccer League?

PL: We know we are in a real battle...We'll stay up.

RL: Stay up?

PL: You know...avoid relegation to the Championship.

RL: The Championship? Is that a rival league?

PL: No, it is the league below the Premier League.

RL: THERE ARE LEAGUES BELOW!!!!

PL: Sigh!

RL: If that is the case, then we must do something to prevent us being eliminated to this 'Championship' you speak of.

PL: Now we're talking :)

RL: You're fired!

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Re: Lerner to meet PL early next week?
« Reply #160 on: January 28, 2013, 12:29:14 PM »
Fuck me eastie make your mind is he going to spend yes/no.
I would be having a word with your ITK again.

The money is there - he hasnt spent it yet .
Will he spend it - surely he will .

But last night your ITK told you PL had decided not to spend it.I know 12 hours is a long time but come on.

Decided not to spend it so far - doesnt mean not at all obviously!
Well we all know that.Your ITK knows as much as the rest of us.The short side of fuck all.

Nice try - Im sure if he could read that he would be laughing his head off

Your ITK...is he dead?...maybe eastie is getting his info from the man above?


Perhaps he's blind?

Offline not3bad

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Re: Lerner to meet PL early next week?
« Reply #161 on: January 28, 2013, 12:50:29 PM »
How the meeting will probably transpire:

RL: Paul, I'm disappointed with our elimination from the FA Superbowl at the hands of the Millwall Soccer Franchise.

PL: We'll pick ourselves up and go again...The lads will be really,really fine.

RL: Awesome!

PL: Any chance of some funding?

RL: LOL!!!!

PL: :(

I think the exchange would end about here personally.


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Re: Lerner to meet PL early next week?
« Reply #162 on: January 28, 2013, 12:52:16 PM »
How the meeting will probably transpire:

RL: Paul, I'm disappointed with our elimination from the FA Superbowl at the hands of the Millwall Soccer Franchise.

PL: We'll pick ourselves up and go again...The lads will be really,really fine.

RL: Awesome!



Or here

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Lerner to meet PL early next week?
« Reply #163 on: January 28, 2013, 01:39:25 PM »
How the meeting will probably transpire:

RL: Paul, I'm disappointed with our elimination from the FA Superbowl at the hands of the Millwall Soccer Franchise.

PL: We'll pick ourselves up and go again...The lads will be really,really fine.

RL: Awesome!

PL: Any chance of some funding?

RL: LOL!!!!

PL: :(

RL: What progress is being made in the Premier Soccer League?

PL: We know we are in a real battle...We'll stay up.

RL: Stay up?

PL: You know...avoid relegation to the Championship.

RL: The Championship? Is that a rival league?

PL: No, it is the league below the Premier League.

RL: THERE ARE LEAGUES BELOW!!!!

PL: Sigh!

RL: If that is the case, then we must do something to prevent us being eliminated to this 'Championship' you speak of.

PL: Now we're talking :)

RL: You're fired!

Very good and hopefully very accurate!

Offline not3bad

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Re: Lerner to meet PL early next week?
« Reply #164 on: January 28, 2013, 01:59:01 PM »
How the meeting will probably transpire:

RL: Paul, I'm disappointed with our elimination from the FA Superbowl at the hands of the Millwall Soccer Franchise.

PL: We'll pick ourselves up and go again...The lads will be really,really fine.

RL: Awesome!

PL: Any chance of some funding?

RL: LOL!!!!

PL: :(

RL: What progress is being made in the Premier Soccer League?

PL: We know we are in a real battle...We'll stay up.

RL: Stay up?

PL: You know...avoid relegation to the Championship.

RL: The Championship? Is that a rival league?

PL: No, it is the league below the Premier League.

RL: THERE ARE LEAGUES BELOW!!!!

PL: Sigh!

RL: If that is the case, then we must do something to prevent us being eliminated to this 'Championship' you speak of.

PL: Now we're talking :)

RL: You're fired!

Very good and hopefully very accurate!

Very accurate?  Lerner sacks another manager but refuses to provide funding?  Yeah, that'd be ace!

 


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