Concrete Ron

[dave.woodhall]

He's not good enough for Manchester United - there's no way he would get into a squad pushing for the title if only because of his injury record and whatever they might be today that's what they're aiming for. Equally, I don't understand why they would want stop-gap for a year of rebuilding. It isn't as though they've been relegated and need players to do a different job now than they would need them for in a year's time; if a player won't join them now he won't join in August 2015 because they've just finished sixth.

[Rudy65]

Yanited's back line yesterday - Evans, Blackett and Smalling - is laughably poor and I'm still worried that van Gaal may come in for him late in the window. Hopefully Vlaar can see that we won't be struggling this season and may opt to stay with us rather than go for a stop-gap year at Manu while van Gaal rebuilds the defence and end up bench warming next year.

At his age, he wont turn United down. Last big pay day for him and more chance of a trophy than us

[villan from luton]

He's not good enough for Manchester United - there's no way he would get into a squad pushing for the title if only because of his injury record and whatever they might be today that's what they're aiming for. Equally, I don't understand why they would want stop-gap for a year of rebuilding. It isn't as though they've been relegated and need players to do a different job now than they would need them for in a year's time; if a player won't join them now he won't join in August 2015 because they've just finished sixth.

I would agree normally, but looking at what Man Utd have in that department at the moment, Vlaar is good enough.

[dave.woodhall]

He's not good enough for Manchester United - there's no way he would get into a squad pushing for the title if only because of his injury record and whatever they might be today that's what they're aiming for. Equally, I don't understand why they would want stop-gap for a year of rebuilding. It isn't as though they've been relegated and need players to do a different job now than they would need them for in a year's time; if a player won't join them now he won't join in August 2015 because they've just finished sixth.

I would agree normally, but looking at what Man Utd have in that department at the moment, Vlaar is good enough.

He's better than they've got but he isn't good enough.

[villan from luton]

yep, would agree that he probably isnt top 4 material. There again, I would have said that about Ken McNaught after his home debut for us :-)

[Ger Regan]

Looks like they're signing Benatia for big bucks so this is all moot imo.

[Villafirst]

Erm....Vlaar not good enough? So he didn't play in the World Cup and end up as one of the World's best defenders? Vlaar is good enough if he has quality alongside him - Baker & Clark aren't real quality.

[ozzjim]

I do think with £20 million, you could sign 2 centre halves from Europe that are as good or better, and younger than Vlaar with decent scouting.

[Ger Regan]

Erm....Vlaar not good enough? So he didn't play in the World Cup and end up as one of the competition's best defenders? Vlaar is good enough if he has quality alongside him - Baker & Clark aren't real quality.

Fixed.

5 or 6 (admittedly impressive) games doesn't make you one of the world's best. There are countless examples of players having good competitions only to fade soon after. I like ron, but let's not start going overboard with his abilities.

[kippaxvilla2]

He did mark Messi out of the game.  It is however more likely that Southampton rather than manure will put a bid in.  At which point we should say foxtrot Oscar.

[villan from luton]

Didnt Liverpool buy that charming lad el hadj Diouff (sp) after a great world cup

[Villa in Denmark]

It can't have been easy trying to adapt to the pace of the league, whilst babysitting the other 3 / 4 members of the back line and for the most part trying to gee-up the rest of the team as captain.

He's been far and away our best defender over the last two years, the difference when he's not been playing has been terrifying at times. What the world cup showed that when he can just concentrate on his own game, he's can be very good, but not someone who Manchester United will build their back line around. 

If he went there it would be the sort of short term squad bolstering exercise Ferguson pulled off with the like Larsson, but that requires a depth of talent they don't have anywhere, other than maybe up front.

Anyway it would be absolute folly to move him on now, just as he gets a chance to drop the babysitting duties and play with some experienced players.  As others have said, he's worth far more to us than anyone is likely to want to pay for him given his age / injury record.  Anyone we bring in is either going to be

• taking a chance as unproven at this level / in this league
• expensive to buy if proven quality
• if 2. - expensive in wages to tempt here in our current situation

 

[Pete3206]

I don't think Villa want to move him on. It all depends on whether we receive an enquiry, a bid and whether the player wants to go.

[Matt Collins]

I don't think Villa want to move him on. It all depends on whether we receive an enquiry, a bid and whether the player wants to go.

Thanks for that ;-)

[Percy McCarthy]

I don't think Villa want to move him on. It all depends on whether we receive an enquiry, a bid and whether the player wants to go.

Are you The Mail's football finance expert? His name is Peter as well I think.

*wink*