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Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #720 on: July 23, 2014, 11:33:47 PM »
Didn't Spurs try this trick with Benteke last summer, offering about 5 players in return?

That said, 5m, Dawson and Holtby. I'd probably do the deal tbh.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #721 on: July 23, 2014, 11:35:59 PM »
No money. Dawson and Holtby would do.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #722 on: July 23, 2014, 11:47:58 PM »
If they did offer Dawson and Holtby, you would have to be mad not to take it. In the league, Dawson has been a similar level of player to Vlaar, and Holtby would be our best attacking midfield option by a long way.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #723 on: July 23, 2014, 11:53:58 PM »
So the Mirror's daily update on us seems to be to state which other club is interested in signing him, today's is Spurs. Add them to the list of QPR, Man U, Roma, Southampton. It'll be Newcastle next, then Everton. They now fuck all, I suppose by the law of averages one of them might be correct.

Personally I can see him going, on the basis that we won't pay him what others will & his stock is as high as it's ever going to be.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #724 on: July 24, 2014, 12:58:42 AM »
Didn't Spurs try this trick with Benteke last summer, offering about 5 players in return?

That said, 5m, Dawson and Holtby. I'd probably do the deal tbh.

Let's offer them benteke and vlaar in exchange for their entire reserve team, just for the hell of it.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #725 on: July 24, 2014, 05:40:56 AM »
it would probably finish higher in the league than our first 11 so why not

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #726 on: July 24, 2014, 07:55:24 AM »
So we can't offer Vlaar a bigger wage but might take 2 players in all probability currently on higher wages than Vlaar? Can't see it myself? Dawson also isn't an adequate replacement for Vlaar.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #727 on: July 24, 2014, 09:26:47 AM »
I've always rated Dawson, he's arguably as good as any of the 4 centre halves England took to the World Cup.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #728 on: July 24, 2014, 09:27:01 AM »
I actaully think Dawson and Holtby, plus a bit of cash would be a good deal. Dawson isn't necessairly as good as Vlaar, but given the injuries Vlaar picks up and the games he misses, that might balance out.

Holtby would be a good option for an attacking player, plus a bit of cash to maybe beef up the pot that we have to spend on central midfield.


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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #729 on: July 24, 2014, 09:29:00 AM »
So we can't offer Vlaar a bigger wage but might take 2 players in all probability currently on higher wages than Vlaar? Can't see it myself? Dawson also isn't an adequate replacement for Vlaar.

Lambert has said he is going to speak to Vlaar about a new deal.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #730 on: July 24, 2014, 09:32:46 AM »
I actaully think Dawson and Holtby, plus a bit of cash would be a good deal. Dawson isn't necessairly as good as Vlaar, but given the injuries Vlaar picks up and the games he misses, that might balance out.

Holtby would be a good option for an attacking player, plus a bit of cash to maybe beef up the pot that we have to spend on central midfield.



Does Dawson really improve on Vlaar fitness wise?  I seem to remember him missing half a season a couple of times in the last few years.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #731 on: July 24, 2014, 10:12:01 AM »
I know he was out for a while, but I thought it was a one off serious injury? I could well be wrong.

Vlaar seems to have an annoying calf problem that just wont go away.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #732 on: July 24, 2014, 10:16:20 AM »
I actaully think Dawson and Holtby, plus a bit of cash would be a good deal. Dawson isn't necessairly as good as Vlaar, but given the injuries Vlaar picks up and the games he misses, that might balance out.

Holtby would be a good option for an attacking player, plus a bit of cash to maybe beef up the pot that we have to spend on central midfield.



Dawson wouldn't be an adequate replacement, as injury prone as Vlaar and he doesn't want to leave London I understand.

Spud fans seem to have a wide range of opinions about Holtby. If the club want to get rid of him I'd suspect the manager doesn't rate him and he didn't make the german squad for Brazil.



Does Dawson really improve on Vlaar fitness wise?  I seem to remember him missing half a season a couple of times in the last few years.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #733 on: July 24, 2014, 10:19:56 AM »
I've always rated Dawson, he's arguably as good as any of the 4 centre halves England took to the World Cup.

Same here. Fitness could be an issue these days but no more so than Ron himself. Personally I'd have had Dawson in my side over Jagielka and the two back ups had I been Woy.

It's total and utter tripe of course, but if there was a deal to be made with us getting Holtby and Dawson in exchange for Ron, then I'd go for it. We get a replacement in right off the bat, and we also bring in a good attacking mid who will play more than 15 games.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #734 on: July 24, 2014, 10:22:26 AM »
Dawson to me appears as error prone as anything we currently have.  I'd much rather stick with Vlaar.

 


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