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Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #450 on: July 12, 2014, 11:26:07 PM »
He has a year left on his contract, more great work by the club not to secure him to a longer contract before the world cup. No way would we get £15m surely?
Someone the other day posted we got £16m for Ashley young with 1 year left ? Not sure if true ?

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #451 on: July 12, 2014, 11:27:31 PM »
This might court controversy but Ron Vlaar's WC surpasses that of the Lord himself in '94. He was simply superb at what he was asked to do as a defender, so I don't count the penalty miss. He was asked to mark some of the best players in the game and in pretty much every contest came out on top. You could argue McGrath's game vs Italy was the single most dominant performance by Villa defender playing for his country but Vlaar vs Argentina comes close.

He has comfortably been one of the top 3 or 4 defenders at the tournament.

Vlaar isn't fit to lace the boots of McGrath in any shape or form.
He's certainly played well in the last few games though, but let's not go over the top.
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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #452 on: July 12, 2014, 11:28:07 PM »
If a Man U or similar came in, didn't mess around and offered £8- £10 million, then fair enough.

The danger is it will be some parasite like 'arry, and they go the route of offering buttons, try to unsettle him with head turning wages and he hands in a transfer request. 

One plus in our favour might be if he has kids at school in the area and doesn't want to uproot them.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #453 on: July 12, 2014, 11:29:07 PM »
This might court controversy but Ron Vlaar's WC surpasses that of the Lord himself in '94. He was simply superb at what he was asked to do as a defender, so I don't count the penalty miss. He was asked to mark some of the best players in the game and in pretty much every contest came out on top. You could argue McGrath's game vs Italy was the single most dominant performance by Villa defender playing for his country but Vlaar vs Argentina comes close.

He has comfortably been one of the top 3 or 4 defenders at the tournament.

Vlaar isn't fit to lace the boots of McGrath in any shape or form.
He's certainly played well in the last few games though, but let's not go over the top.

it's called discussion. I never compared McGrath to Vlaar as players in terms of their overall ability or entire body of work. I have compared their respective performances at two World Cups. There is nothing over the top about that comparison.
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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #454 on: July 12, 2014, 11:29:59 PM »
This might court controversy but Ron Vlaar's WC surpasses that of the Lord himself in '94. He was simply superb at what he was asked to do as a defender, so I don't count the penalty miss. He was asked to mark some of the best players in the game and in pretty much every contest came out on top. You could argue McGrath's game vs Italy was the single most dominant performance by Villa defender playing for his country but Vlaar vs Argentina comes close.

He has comfortably been one of the top 3 or 4 defenders at the tournament.

Vlaar isn't fit to lace the boots of McGrath in any shape or form.
He's certainly played well in the last few games though, but let's not go over the top.
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Yet you still say he's bound to be off.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #455 on: July 12, 2014, 11:32:45 PM »
I think it's likely he will go. I hope i'm wrong though, the thought of Vlaar and Okore having a season together for us gives me a funny tingly feeling in my tummy. And I like it.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #456 on: July 12, 2014, 11:33:21 PM »
SSN Monday 10am , entrance to QPR training ground. Saggy chops winds window down shoves his chops into a Sky mic - "yeah I like him, I like Ron, great player , I like him".

Surely it would be "trific player"!

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #457 on: July 12, 2014, 11:36:57 PM »
I think it's likely he will go. I hope i'm wrong though, the thought of Vlaar and Okore having a season together for us gives me a funny tingly feeling in my tummy. And I like it.

If we got offers in the 6-7m range I'd say fuck it and keep him. I'd like to see that too because just the improvement one would hope with the club would see that fee returned in a better final position at the end of the season.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #458 on: July 12, 2014, 11:37:05 PM »
I'd say it's highly likely he's off.

Our best bet is if we offer him say 4 years on top of the 1 left on as much as we can stretch to in the current situation, £50k a week ?? As
Someone said he's got kids at school and he may factor that in ?

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #459 on: July 12, 2014, 11:55:27 PM »
One World Sports

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Three thoughts: Netherlands 3, Brazil 0

2. Ron Vlaar has been the best center back at this World Cup.

The Aston Villa defender certainly wasn’t expected to be one the brightest lights of this World Cup. In fact, he was actively highlighted as one of the Netherlands’ weaknesses.

But along with Arjen Robben and Robin Van Persie, Vlaar has been the most impressive and consistent Dutch player at the tournament. His performance against Argentina in the semi-final kept his side in the contest right up until the penalty shootout, when cruelly Vlaar’s saved spot kick set the course for Holland’s exit.

Against Brazil, Vlaar was the beating heart of Holland’s defensive organism, even showing his ability bringing the ball out from the back.

Thiago Silva and Mats Hummels will likely take their places in defense for the team of the World Cup, but if the selection discounts reputation and prestige, Vlaar should be in there as well.


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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #460 on: July 13, 2014, 12:25:47 AM »
Wonder if he's gonna go all Alpay on us after a successful World Cup.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #461 on: July 13, 2014, 12:34:35 AM »
Wonder if he's gonna go all Alpay on us after a successful World Cup.
He doesn't strike me as that type of character . He reminds me of Olof in terms of character etc . I hope I'm not proven wrong. He seems on the outside looking in a good old fashioned pro and a man of honour and integrity. If we lose him through not making him any sort of offer it will be a sad scenario.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #462 on: July 13, 2014, 12:46:18 AM »
Wonder if he's gonna go all Alpay on us after a successful World Cup.
He doesn't strike me as that type of character . He reminds me of Olof in terms of character etc . I hope I'm not proven wrong. He seems on the outside looking in a good old fashioned pro and a man of honour and integrity. If we lose him through not making him any sort of offer it will be a sad scenario.

I agree. Completely different beast to Alpay, who I liked very much when he was playing well, but who was clearly not the sharpest knife  in the drawer.

If he stays he well give his best  on the pitch, absolutely. If he is injured though, and is not on a decent contract, he will less likely to return until fully fit.

In any case, there will be serious offers for him. That would be case the case even if he had not done so well in the tournament by dint of the fact that his contract in running down.   

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #463 on: July 13, 2014, 01:17:22 AM »
Whatever happens, it's nice to have something to be proud about on the pitch for a change.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #464 on: July 13, 2014, 01:38:31 AM »
Whatever happens, it's nice to have something to be proud about on the pitch for a change.

Ain't that the truth.

 


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