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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #435 on: July 10, 2014, 09:39:07 PM »
No if I were him and the opportunity arose I'd be off.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #436 on: July 11, 2014, 10:28:44 AM »
I like him and don't want him to leave, but some of the comments about what a great World Cup he has had and comparing him to Paul McGrath are over the top for me. I think he has been exposed on a number of occasions and has been lucky on other occasions not to  be punished for defensive lapses and fouls.

I have to agree with you here. Vlaar was to blame for quite a few goals last season, he's looked awesome for the Dutch but lets face it the calibre of player alongside him is far superior. If he gets the chance and Villa get a decent fee I don't think anyone can really begrudge him a move to somewhere where he is at least challenging for honours rather than fighting for survival.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #437 on: July 11, 2014, 10:33:30 AM »
I still maintain the majority of Vlaar's problems are caused by Baker. He constantly has to cover for Baker and it has a detriment to his own role.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #438 on: July 11, 2014, 10:38:25 AM »


That WhoScored rating is a load of bollocks. Wouldn't have shocked me pre-tournament if you told me that's how he'd compare to Luiz anyway ...

I massively rate Vlaar and really hope he stays but he ticks all the boxes for Manure and as many of you have said, who could blame him for wanting the move?  Good luck to him, let's just hope we get the 10 million I think he's worth

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #439 on: July 11, 2014, 10:39:26 AM »
If Vlaar does stay (and so far there hasn't been much to suggest that he won't), then I think this will be a telling season for him.  The first one you have to say he was unlucky with injuries so we never got to see what he could do.  Last season he looked good to me, but again because of the flaws around him and the defence still learning to play together then there were still lots of problems.  Now into his third season and coming off a good WC he has good chance to make an impact.  I wouldn't say he is a world class player, but I do think he had a good tournament, and is one of Villa's most important players right now.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #440 on: July 11, 2014, 01:51:11 PM »


That WhoScored rating is a load of bollocks. Wouldn't have shocked me pre-tournament if you told me that's how he'd compare to Luiz anyway ...

I massively rate Vlaar and really hope he stays but he ticks all the boxes for Manure and as many of you have said, who could blame him for wanting the move?  Good luck to him, let's just hope we get the 10 million I think he's worth

Not really, Luiz's rating is bumped up significantly by the fact that he has 2 goals and an assist to his name for the tournament.  That doesn't help him as a central defender, where he was clearly dreadful in the semi-final but he's still had a decent tournament, he's a midfielder but for some reason he is seen a defender by himself and most of his managers, he has nothing like the positional discipline to play central defence at the top level.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #441 on: July 11, 2014, 01:57:24 PM »
Goals are just a plus as a defender, plus Vlaar is dangerous from set pieces too.  As a midfielder I think Luiz is good, but sadly for him that is not where he is normally played.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #442 on: July 11, 2014, 10:16:40 PM »
Thanks Ron and the best of luck in your future endevours ( this does depends on who you sign for ).
I doubt we will stump up the cash for an appropriate contract.
I will feel no ill  towards Ron if he does go, can't blame him.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #443 on: July 12, 2014, 11:07:27 PM »
This might court controversy but Ron Vlaar's WC surpasses that of the Lord himself in '94. He was simply superb at what he was asked to do as a defender, so I don't count the penalty miss. He was asked to mark some of the best players in the game and in pretty much every contest came out on top. You could argue McGrath's game vs Italy was the single most dominant performance by Villa defender playing for his country but Vlaar vs Argentina comes close.

He has comfortably been one of the top 3 or 4 defenders at the tournament.

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #444 on: July 12, 2014, 11:12:40 PM »
Nowhere near as good as Macca in 94.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #445 on: July 12, 2014, 11:14:31 PM »
I'd be very surprised, and delighted, if no clubs came in for him after that World Cup.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #446 on: July 12, 2014, 11:17:14 PM »
SSN Monday 10am , entrance to QPR training ground. Saggy chops winds window down shoves his chops into a Sky mic - "yeah I like him, I like Ron, great player , I like him".

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #447 on: July 12, 2014, 11:21:47 PM »
15m or no deal someone will pay it if want him enough.

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #448 on: July 12, 2014, 11:24:38 PM »
He has a year left on his contract, more great work by the club not to secure him to a longer contract before the world cup. No way would we get £15m surely?

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #449 on: July 12, 2014, 11:25:48 PM »
This might court controversy but Ron Vlaar's WC surpasses that of the Lord himself in '94. He was simply superb at what he was asked to do as a defender, so I don't count the penalty miss. He was asked to mark some of the best players in the game and in pretty much every contest came out on top. You could argue McGrath's game vs Italy was the single most dominant performance by Villa defender playing for his country but Vlaar vs Argentina comes close.

He has comfortably been one of the top 3 or 4 defenders at the tournament.

Vlaar isn't fit to lace the boots of McGrath in any shape or form.
He's certainly played well in the last few games though, but let's not go over the top.

 


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