Footballer in gay magazine

[QBVILLA]

It was meant to be offensive, and it was.

In your opinion.

So you can be as offensive as you like as long as you meant it as a joke?

See this is exactly what i'm talking about. In your opinion you took it that he was saying it as an offensive remark. In my opinion he was making a joke via wordplay.
Both are opinions
You however, said "It was meant to be offensive, and it was." Which by my reckoning is stating a fact and that is wrong.

[saunders_heroes]

It was meant to be offensive, and it was.

In your opinion.

So you can be as offensive as you like as long as you meant it as a joke?

See this is exactly what i'm talking about. In your opinion you took it that he was saying it as an offensive remark. In my opinion he was making a joke via wordplay.
Both are opinions
You however, said "It was meant to be offensive, and it was." Which by my reckoning is stating a fact and that is wrong.

That sounds like a cop out so you can say what you like however offensive just as long as you claim you were only joking.

[Risso]

I don't think there's any doubt Sonlyme meant to be as offensive as possible.  In any case, several people were offended, so whatever his intentions, he caused offence.

[Toronto Villa]

It will be a great day when stories/ threads like this are no longer needed because gay people will be as relevant/irrelevant as hetrosexual people. At the end of the day, and at least the gay people I know just want to get one with their lives and not be known for their sexuality. Because it doesn't matter at all, does it?

[Ger Regan]

It will be a great day when stories/ threads like this are no longer needed because gay people will be as relevant/irrelevant as hetrosexual people. At the end of the day, and at least the gay people I know just want to get one with their lives and not be known for their sexuality. Because it doesn't matter at all, does it?

It shouldn't, but it does for some narrow-minded idiots. Like the pope.

[saunders_heroes]

It will be a great day when stories/ threads like this are no longer needed because gay people will be as relevant/irrelevant as hetrosexual people. At the end of the day, and at least the gay people I know just want to get one with their lives and not be known for their sexuality. Because it doesn't matter at all, does it?

It shouldn't, but it does for some narrow-minded idiots. Like the pope.

It's not just the pope though is it. Lots of people question other people's sexuality, and it's usually via an insult. Until casual insults and the usual finger pointing and mocking ends then gay people will not be treated with the same respect that every other person is.

[danlanza]

That's Religion for you, a control mechanism.
People are people, gay, straight or whatever. It really should not be an issue for us. We are what we are,human beings.

[Ger Regan]

It will be a great day when stories/ threads like this are no longer needed because gay people will be as relevant/irrelevant as hetrosexual people. At the end of the day, and at least the gay people I know just want to get one with their lives and not be known for their sexuality. Because it doesn't matter at all, does it?

It shouldn't, but it does for some narrow-minded idiots. Like the pope.

It's not just the pope though is it. Lots of people question other people's sexuality, and it's usually via an insult. Until casual insults and the usual finger pointing and mocking ends then gay people will not be treated with the same respect that every other person is.

It was a throwaway line tbh, I know homophobia is still prevalent in many areas of society, not just religion.

[usav]

This is because of the following:
My gaffer is male
My next door neighbours are white
I am married to a woman.
I have no gay friends, well at least to my knowledge anyway.
My doctor is a white man.

I took this as an insult as I pointed out none of the above were my doing.

Surely marrying a woman is your doing, unless you were forced into something you didn't want to do?

[Ger Regan]

This is because of the following:
My gaffer is male
My next door neighbours are white
I am married to a woman.
I have no gay friends, well at least to my knowledge anyway.
My doctor is a white man.

I took this as an insult as I pointed out none of the above were my doing.

Surely marrying a woman is your doing, unless you were forced into something you didn't want to do?

Do you think homo / heterosexuality is a choice rather than something that comes naturally to someone?

[Dave]

This is because of the following:
My gaffer is male
My next door neighbours are white
I am married to a woman.
I have no gay friends, well at least to my knowledge anyway.
My doctor is a white man.

I took this as an insult as I pointed out none of the above were my doing.

Surely marrying a woman is your doing, unless you were forced into something you didn't want to do?

Do you think homo / heterosexuality is a choice rather than something that comes naturally to someone?

His sexuality isn't a choice but whether or not he marries a woman clearly is.

[QBVILLA]

It was meant to be offensive, and it was.

In your opinion.

So you can be as offensive as you like as long as you meant it as a joke?

See this is exactly what i'm talking about. In your opinion you took it that he was saying it as an offensive remark. In my opinion he was making a joke via wordplay.
Both are opinions
You however, said "It was meant to be offensive, and it was." Which by my reckoning is stating a fact and that is wrong.

That sounds like a cop out so you can say what you like however offensive just as long as you claim you were only joking.

It isn't a cop out at all. I don't know for certain that he meant it as an insult and you don't know for certain that he didn't. It is down to the way you read it. I have at no stage said it's ok if it's 'only joking' but words both written and spoken  can mean very different things.

[eastie]

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[QBVILLA]

I don't think there's any doubt Sonlyme meant to be as offensive as possible.  In any case, several people were offended, so whatever his intentions, he caused offence.

Hmmmm.So were you intending to be offensive when you made the remark about the gay fella being brilliant at show business trivia?
Only you and sonlyme know what was meant in those two posts. For everyone else it's down to interpretation.

[Ger Regan]

This is because of the following:
My gaffer is male
My next door neighbours are white
I am married to a woman.
I have no gay friends, well at least to my knowledge anyway.
My doctor is a white man.

I took this as an insult as I pointed out none of the above were my doing.

Surely marrying a woman is your doing, unless you were forced into something you didn't want to do?

Do you think homo / heterosexuality is a choice rather than something that comes naturally to someone?

His sexuality isn't a choice but whether or not he marries a woman clearly is.

Well, yes, but was that the point he was actually trying to make?