Le Saux recounted the incident in his autobiography: “I didn’t go out of my way to stand up for gay rights, but my situation dictated that I did. The way I see it, there are people in the gay community that are going to be football fans and that means there are young people who might be confused about their sexuality. They need support, so when Robbie Fowler attempts to humiliate me in public, all the kids in that position feel pretty s***ty about themselves.“More than anything in my career, that offended me. What he did was wrong and he has never admitted that. He still talks as if it was a bit of a laugh. I just think there should be someone in his life who says, ‘Robbie, you were out of order’.”
Good points made by Le Saux:QuoteLe Saux recounted the incident in his autobiography: I didnt go out of my way to stand up for gay rights, but my situation dictated that I did. The way I see it, there are people in the gay community that are going to be football fans and that means there are young people who might be confused about their sexuality. They need support, so when Robbie Fowler attempts to humiliate me in public, all the kids in that position feel pretty s***ty about themselves.More than anything in my career, that offended me. What he did was wrong and he has never admitted that. He still talks as if it was a bit of a laugh. I just think there should be someone in his life who says, Robbie, you were out of order.http://www.onthisfootballday.com/football-history/february-27-robbie-taunts-le-saux.php
Le Saux recounted the incident in his autobiography: I didnt go out of my way to stand up for gay rights, but my situation dictated that I did. The way I see it, there are people in the gay community that are going to be football fans and that means there are young people who might be confused about their sexuality. They need support, so when Robbie Fowler attempts to humiliate me in public, all the kids in that position feel pretty s***ty about themselves.More than anything in my career, that offended me. What he did was wrong and he has never admitted that. He still talks as if it was a bit of a laugh. I just think there should be someone in his life who says, Robbie, you were out of order.
Quote from: Can Bent Be Bettered!?!? on January 04, 2013, 03:34:05 PMQuote from: MarkM on January 04, 2013, 03:29:46 PMAbout 1.5% of the population consider them selves gay or lesbian.you could assume that that would mean that about 1.5% of the football players are gay, however only 1% of men consider themselves gay so that reduces the potential gay footballers to 1%.Now we can probably assume that a portion of gay people may not be drawn into football and then reduce that again by the number who actually make it.So the numbers of actual players who are playing that may be gay is more than likely very very smallHA! How on earth can you come up with a statistic like that? Does this include all nations where being homosexual is considered a crime because I'm guessing they would not come forward freely to state they are gay. Also, I think this country, on the whole, is not set-up for homosexuals to just be themselves. I can imagine it being very difficult. Look at the stupid and ridiculous chanting that goes on when a footballer is even alleged to be homosexual!What's with the 'Ha!' It's not my statistic it's from the ONS survey
Quote from: MarkM on January 04, 2013, 03:29:46 PMAbout 1.5% of the population consider them selves gay or lesbian.you could assume that that would mean that about 1.5% of the football players are gay, however only 1% of men consider themselves gay so that reduces the potential gay footballers to 1%.Now we can probably assume that a portion of gay people may not be drawn into football and then reduce that again by the number who actually make it.So the numbers of actual players who are playing that may be gay is more than likely very very smallHA! How on earth can you come up with a statistic like that? Does this include all nations where being homosexual is considered a crime because I'm guessing they would not come forward freely to state they are gay. Also, I think this country, on the whole, is not set-up for homosexuals to just be themselves. I can imagine it being very difficult. Look at the stupid and ridiculous chanting that goes on when a footballer is even alleged to be homosexual!
About 1.5% of the population consider them selves gay or lesbian.you could assume that that would mean that about 1.5% of the football players are gay, however only 1% of men consider themselves gay so that reduces the potential gay footballers to 1%.Now we can probably assume that a portion of gay people may not be drawn into football and then reduce that again by the number who actually make it.So the numbers of actual players who are playing that may be gay is more than likely very very small
Perhaps there just genuinely aren't and haven't been that many gay footballers? I've worked with hundreds of people over the years, and the number of openly gay people I've known in that time you could count on the fingers of one hand.
We cherry pick what we are going to be outraged by in order to feel the maximum amount of self approval for the minimum amount of effort and sacrifice.
Quote from: brian green on January 04, 2013, 09:59:46 PMWe cherry pick what we are going to be outraged by in order to feel the maximum amount of self approval for the minimum amount of effort and sacrifice.Very good points Brian, especially IMO, the one I've quoted. The current news issue that angers me the most is the Indian rape/murder victim, which probably meets the self approval criteria.
Quote from: Rissbert on January 04, 2013, 02:34:11 PMPerhaps there just genuinely aren't and haven't been that many gay footballers? I've worked with hundreds of people over the years, and the number of openly gay people I've known in that time you could count on the fingers of one hand.Just be more yourself Riss - and I'm sure they'll come on to you.And if you were to butter that hand - and close it's fingers into a fist - I know you would be a hit.Best Regards.