Footballer in gay magazine

[bertlambshank]

For any footballer wanting to come maybe they should go down the Gareth Thomas route.He was at the end of his career and told the rugby world he was gay.A load of respect was given to him,and his post rugby career took off.Just a thought.

[Risso]

Riss, your's was as bad as the other one, just less graphic.

Kisses, Perc.

Was it as bad as implying that all black women have similar characters?

Big hugs, Riss

[paul_e]

I find it completely unpredictable that this thread threatens to turn into a "you're less tolerant than me" spamfest.

On topic, Fair play to Jarvis, he's put himself in the firing line for something he believes in, if by doing this a few youngsters who are thinking of not following up on a career because they're gay and are terrified end up sticking with the game then he's achieved something.  Getting fans (as a group not individuals) attitudes to change will be much slower.

[QBVILLA]

Am I allowed to make a comment about Jarvis 'putting himself in the firing line'?

[villan from luton]

Am I allowed to make a comment about Jarvis 'putting himself in the firing line'?

So long as you are funny and it is obviously a joke, I dont think anyone would take offence

[pauliewalnuts]

The question during my diversity training was whether i lived with a man or a woman. I live with my wife.

That's a lose / lose situation and no mistake.

[Percy McCarthy]

Riss, your's was as bad as the other one, just less graphic.

Kisses, Perc.

Was it as bad as implying that all black women have similar characters?

Big hugs, Riss

God, you're so anal.

[pauliewalnuts]

All in all, I reckon this thread has gone pretty well.

Oh yes.

[hawkeye]

I see levity is frowned upon here.

Though I reserve the right to make 'off colour' gags.

Unless that makes me a rascist as well as a homophobe?

I don't care about colour. I don't care about orientation.  I care about the embryonic Villa.  And the stifling negativity I see on here from time to time.

Kind regards.

Not exactly the apology I requested was it?

no he is obviously above that, profound and hilariously funny as well, a real credit to this site.

[Vancouver]

I can't believe some people's reactions demanding an apology and say how offended they are. Did it really offend you? Really? It was meant as a joke, not that funny nor (I found personally) offensive. All of a sudden people are shocked. Like you have all never cracked a joke at someone else's expense before nor matter if its age, sexuality, race or religion

[peter w]

I think that sometimes when it comes to homophobia and racism there seems to be almost a clamour to prove your credentials by how offended you can show yoursef to be. Dave Cooper cracked a couple of crap jokes about a Bolton player and him sounding like something from a Chinese restaurant. Clearly he isn't racist. Sonlyme posted soemthing that I really didn't get but the race to be the first to say how offended a poster was akin to 5 year-olds saying to mommy and daddy that its wrong to shout just so they can feel happy to be told that they are a good boy or girl. It doesn't make Sonlyme a homophobe.

Its not football that is racist or homophobic but,with special regard to the latter, its typical of male humour in not understanding something so resorting to playground humour. Its legislation that changes attitudes and politicising the issues not well meaning white liberals who've done nothing to support gay rights.

[QBVILLA]

Well said

[5ft811st2 Durham]

I find it completely unpredictable that this thread threatens to turn into a "you're less tolerant than me" spamfest.

On topic, Fair play to Jarvis, he's put himself in the firing line for something he believes in, if by doing this a few youngsters who are thinking of not following up on a career because they're gay and are terrified end up sticking with the game then he's achieved something.  Getting fans (as a group not individuals) attitudes to change will be much slower.

I imagine his priority was making a few quid and raising his profile.

[Chris Smith]

I find it completely unpredictable that this thread threatens to turn into a "you're less tolerant than me" spamfest.

On topic, Fair play to Jarvis, he's put himself in the firing line for something he believes in, if by doing this a few youngsters who are thinking of not following up on a career because they're gay and are terrified end up sticking with the game then he's achieved something.  Getting fans (as a group not individuals) attitudes to change will be much slower.

I imagine his priority was making a few quid and raising his profile.

Obviously, a Premiership footballer has to do everything he can to make a crust

[Greg N'Ash]

I think that sometimes when it comes to homophobia and racism there seems to be almost a clamour to prove your credentials by how offended you can show yoursef to be. Dave Cooper cracked a couple of crap jokes about a Bolton player and him sounding like something from a Chinese restaurant. Clearly he isn't racist. Sonlyme posted soemthing that I really didn't get but the race to be the first to say how offended a poster was akin to 5 year-olds saying to mommy and daddy that its wrong to shout just so they can feel happy to be told that they are a good boy or girl. It doesn't make Sonlyme a homophobe.

Its not football that is racist or homophobic but,with special regard to the latter, its typical of male humour in not understanding something so resorting to playground humour. Its legislation that changes attitudes and politicising the issues not well meaning white liberals who've done nothing to support gay rights.

Personally i took sonlyme's comments as a bit of  "afters", following the "Lambert - shit or not" debate as they are very much at oppostive ends of the arguement. It certainly wasn't funny IMO and i read it as a dig at rissbert, but if he meant it lightheartedly fair enough. Takes all sorts i guess....